Dane Wigington
geoengineeringwatch.org
On Friday, October 7th, 2016, GeoengineeringWatch.org carried out a simple survey that involved 1518 climate scientists and experts. Below is the very simple and straightforward survey statement sent out to 1518 climate scientists/experts by GeoengineeringWatch. This survey was worded in a specific fashion for a reason. The climate science community has systematically claimed that geoengineering programs are only a "proposal". But what happens when this community is asked to state their denial on the record?
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Dear Expert/Scientist, The subject of climate engineering has become a frontline conversation in countless circles of academia and with governments around the globe. You may be aware of the rapidly building controversy over climate engineering/geoengineering and whether or not these programs have already been deployed. GeoengineeringWatch.org is conducting a survey in an attempt to bring clarification to this controversial issue. With this objective in mind, we would be grateful if you could give a simple yes or no answer to the following question: Can you confirm for us that geoengineering programs HAVE NOT yet been deployed by the United States government? Such programs would include (but not be limited to) solar radiation management (SRM), stratospheric aerosol geoengineering (SAG), cloud albedo enhancement (CAE), or stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI).
We appreciate your consideration of the very important question posed in this survey. If we do not receive a response to the simple survey question we will assume (for the purposes of the survey) that as an expert/scientist on weather and climate you are not willing to state that climate engineering/geoengineering/solar radiation management programs have not yet been deployed by the US government. Thank you for your consideration of this most important attempt to add clarification to the climate engineering/geoengineering controversy. |
Of the 1518 academicians solicited, 970 of the scientists/experts did not open this survey/inquiry. Was their reluctance due to the stated survey subject and their unwillingness to address the geoengineering issue publicly? Possibly because to do so would be at minimum a bad career decision? Or is the illegal federal "gag order" on all National Weather Service and all NOAA employees the bottom line with their silence? 34 of the scientists/experts immediately "unsubscribed" (possibly for the same reason that 970 did not even open the survey). Another 34 of the survey inquiries were not deliverable. But, 584 of the scientists/experts did open the climate engineering survey message. Of all 584, only one was initially willing to deny the climate engineering/geoengineering/solar radiation management reality on the record (he subsequently refused to confirm his initial answer, more on that below). So, the final summary is this, 100% of scientists/experts surveyed REFUSED to deny the climate engineering reality on the record. How much longer can the climate engineering atrocities be hidden from the public in plain sight? When will the so called "scientists and experts" show the courage to tell the truth to the population they claim to represent?
Geoengineered skies over Chippewa, Pennsylvania. Photo credit: Buddy Revell
When the hard science terms are used in a study or survey (such as the one that was just carried out), the willingness of academicians to lie or deny about the issue radically dissipates. Terms like solar radiation management (SRM), stratospheric aerosol geoengineering (SAG), cloud albedo enhancement (CAE), or stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI). Again, in the case of this survey, virtually none of the scientists surveyed were willing to deny the climate engineering reality on the record, none.
Internationally known climate scientist Alan Robock was one of a number of respondents to the survey. Below is a previous quote from Mr. Robock that is important to consider within the context of this article.
But there are at least 26 reasons why geoengineering may be a bad idea. These include disruption of the Asian and African summer monsoons, reducing precipitation to the food supply for billions of people; ozone depletion; no more blue skies; reduction of solar power; and rapid global warming if it stops.
– Alan Robock, Professor, Department of Environmental Sciences,
Rutgers University, 2013
Now let's get to climate scientist Alan Robock's actual reply to the simple and straight forward GeoengineeringWatch survey question.
That's a ridiculous question. I don't know of any such programs, but how can I be sure that they don't exist. It is impossible to prove that something does not exist.
Alan RobockAlan Robock, Distinguished Professor
Editor, Reviews of Geophysics
Department of Environmental Sciences Phone: +1-848-932-5751
Rutgers University Fax: +1-732-932-8644
14 College Farm Road
New Brunswick, NJ 08901-8551 USAE-mail: robock@envsci.rutgers.edu
http://envsci.rutgers.edu/~robock
☮ http://twitter.com/AlanRobock
Is Mr. Robock's reply believable? Are we really to accept that this world renowned climate scientist is completely unaware of "any such programs"? Having met Alan Robock at an AAAS international geoengineering science conference in 2010 (along with geoengineer David Keith), I have long since been convinced of his total lack of honesty.
What response did our simple and honest survey get from two UCAR scientists? (UCAR is the "University Corporation for Atmospheric Research. This organization gets almost 100% of its funding from the federal government).
UCAR scientist/expert Andrew Swartz said this:
As an expert/scientist I can confirm beyond a doubt that you people are idiots.
Andrew Schwartz: aschwa@ucar.edu
Another UCAR scientist/expert, Reid Doyle, said exactly the same:
As an expert/scientist I can confirm beyond a doubt that you people are idiots.
Reid Doyle: doyle@ucar.edu
Anyone reading this post that takes issue with this kind of attitude from a "climate scientist/expert" (on such a critically important issue that is so drastically affecting us all) should take the time to let these scientists know what you think.
Another scientist/expert from the UK, Guy Gratton, said this:
I am not in the USA, and I do not support your group's objectives. Your approach to carrying out research is also superficial.
Gratton, Guy B.: guat@faam.ac.uk
Apparently Mr. Gratton needed a more complex question to make him feel better about his refusal to deny the climate engineering reality.
For the record, there was one UCAR scientist/expert (from the whole 1500 +) that initially sent back his survey question with a checked box for the following question:
Yes, as an expert/scientist I can confirm that global atmospheric geoengineering programs have not yet been deployed.
Roelof Bruintjes: roelof@ucar.edu
GeoengineeringWatch.org administration then sent the follow up message below just to confirm the survey answer from Mr. Bruintjes:
Hello Roelof, thank you for your reply to our survey on Geoengineering. Of the over 1500 academicians surveyed, you are so far the only scientist to state/claim that you can confirm global geoengineering/solar radiation management/stratospheric aerosol injection programs have NOT already been deployed. Before we publicly post your name and statement of record, we want to be sure this is your official posititon on the climate engineering issue. Can you please confirm with us that you know global geoengineering programs have NOT already been deployed.
Thank you in advance for your pending reply.
Admin
No confirmation response ever came from Roelof Bruintjes.
This survey was undertaken as a counter response to the completely illegitimate propaganda "science study" (conducted by geoengineer Ken Caldeira and "Carnegie Science") which claimed "Chemtrails Not Real". Geoengineering Watch easily and completely de-bunked Caldeira's baseless study (survey). Of course the power structure controlled corporate mainstream media empire published the Caldeira and "Carnegie Science" disinformation in all their mainstream media outlets, no questions asked. Since the "chemtrails" term has no validity or basis in any science context of forum, it was possible for geoengineer Ken Caldeira to find a few academicians that were willing to deny the subject of "chemtrails". For the record, 84% of the scientists Caldeira surveyed were unwilling to deny even the "chemtrail" term on the record and thus never responded to Caldeira. Caldeira and Carnegie Science surveyed 450 scientists about the validity of the non-science "chemtrail" term/issue, only 76 individuals (16%) responded that "chemtrails did not exist", one said he could not be sure. Again, "chemtrail" is not a science term, it means virtually nothing scientifically. Caldeira knows this and that is, of course, exactly why he and "Carnegie Science" used the term for their completely propagandistic false study. As should be expected, Caldeira and "Carnegie Science" never clearly disclosed the fact that 84% of the scientists they surveyed never responded. The Caldeira Carnegie study was simply power structure backed baseless disinformation. It is important to note that ALL of the climate scientists/experts that publicly denied "chemtrails" in the Caldeira Carnegie "study/survey" (76 total) were included with in this GeoengineeringWatch.org survey. Not one of these scientists was willing to deny climate engineering when the science terms were used.
To verify the validity of the GeoengineeringWatch.org survey/study that was just performed, we are posting the entire list of scientists and experts that were a part of the survey. Their names and official email addresses are in the PDF below. The public is encouraged to communicate with these scientists and experts about the climate engineering issue. The forwarding of credible climate engineering data to these scientists/experts will assist with the effort to fully expose the ongoing geoengineering atrocities. Sharing and forwarding credible information with these scientists/experts also helps to further eliminate their ability to ever publicly deny that geoengineering is already a reality.
Click the PDF file icon for the extremely extensive list of climate scientists and experts surveyed. We were not able to get a single one of the nearly 1500 scientists/experts shown in the file below (with their contacts) to deny the climate engineering reality. If anyone is able to obtain an on the record denial from any of them, please let us know.
Exposing and halting the ongoing climate engineering assault is the great imperative of our time. The unwillingness of the climate science community to tell the truth about climate engineering is inexcusable. Once the public is fully awakened to the geoengineering crimes (and the irreparable damage that has been done to them from these programs), will the scientists and experts that have helped to hide these crimes then be held legally and morally responsible? Will those in the corporate media who helped to perpetuate the deception also be held accountable? Time will soon enough reveal the answer to these questions. All of us are needed in the critical battle to sound the alarm, make your voice heard. Reaching a critical mass of public awareness is the only way forward in this fight.
DW
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I sent CE info to Susan Jasko & Anne Smith, as well as almost 200 other scientists. Some addresses are posted, here: https://twitter.com/mary_hollowell/status/989917873312292865
These scientists are afraid of loosing their jobs, tenures and grants. They have sold their souls and are gutless in my opinion. Maybe it is time to start a massive letter writing / email campaign to the US President, Senators, Congressmen, State Governors and State Legislature members!
I observe. And take account on every fact supporting my observations. If the scientists are silenced , it is because they are afraid of loosing their position. I see the airplanes from the stratosphere layer, spaying their chimical aérosol upon us. The airplanes are coming back, like they are loosing their destination The chemtrails are trapped into the troposphere. And they are coming down on us with a enlarge pattern of display. Between the stratosphere and the troposphere, the CEM is trapped along with its chimical's ways of accessibility. The "effet de serre" is at its maximum lethal dosage, with this trapped dome, upon our head. Along with the electromagnetic technology system, which is displaying its very profitable plan. I am sick but will try to support your actions. In Quebec, we are going down with flood, corruption, erosion, acidity level, energy industries, distribution of hydroelectricity and mining corporations, merging together into expropriating the lands of our mothers and fathers. We are people but are not recognize as so. The amount of sickness, suicide, SLA, Alzheimer, infantile glioma, autism, infertility had reached a level that is so high that it is kept hidden from the press. The observations are never answered, by any authority. around here. Big electrical pylones apon children parks and houses, surrounding smart meters installed in schools, libraries, churches, lightning systems and parking areas, next to the grid train. We must be the champions of people resistance to be able to cope with it.
merci, thank-you for your clear thinking and willingness to be vocal.
Do these " fellows" believe that their bosses, are going to somehow miraculously "spare Them"?– They most likely will be some of the first to be sacrificed _ Most of us do not understand the Mindset of these people.
Dear friends,
I wanted to let you know about a new petition I created on We the People, a new feature on WhiteHouse.gov, and ask for your support. Will you add your name to mine? If this petition gets 99,999 signatures by March 19, 2017, the White House will review it and respond!
We the People allows anyone to create and sign petitions asking the White House to take action on a range of issues. If a petition gets enough support, the White House will issue an official response.
You can view and sign the petition here:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-geoengineering-chemtrails-now
Here's some more information about this petition:
Stop Geoengineering Chemtrails Now
We must stop the constant spraying of aluminum, barium, other chemicals and particulates into our skies over the United States. This constant spraying, which is being done by way of Aircraft, must stop because it is polluting the air we breath 24 hours a day and it is also polluting the water we drink, it is polluting the soil so that crops don't grow right, and it is being used to control the population by weather modification. It is believed to be causing a rise in Alzheimers and Autism.
I contacted some of these surveyed scientists about climate engineering & posted some addresses here: http://theforgottenroom.org/contacts_email_addresses.html
Some of them have interesting presentations published online at AMS 2016. For example, Jonathan Martin https://ams.confex.com/ams/96Annual/videogateway.cgi/id/31586?recordingid=31586&uniqueid=Paper292566&entry_password=879552
Anne Smith https://ams.confex.com/ams/96Annual/videogateway.cgi/id/31877?recordingid=31877&uniqueid=Paper286703&entry_password=864380
Recordings of other scientists, such as William Lau, Rudy Klucik/Steven Oncley, Jadwiga Richter, disappear when you click on them. My own records are maintained. Thanks.
I wrote Ralph Stoffler of U.S. Air Force/Pentagon about climate engineering, as well.
On 1/11/16, he showed photos of the Space Weather Operations Center in Nebraska. View them, here, at [3:30 minutes] https://ams.confex.com/ams/96Annual/videogateway.cgi/id/31966?recordingid=31966&uniqueid=Paper288507&entry_password=257930
He says, "We also provide a lot of support outside of DOD, on the classified side, because we have a full classified capability there." Support to whom? The CIA?
And here is what is happening with the companies feeding us their chemical "food"…https://www.organicconsumers.org/essays/letter-hague-long-march
We've been getting creamed with an unreal amount of geoengineering poison over the last week or so in NW Florida. I sure hope your lawsuit bears fruit and you can start naming names……
Thousands of over flights by the military over Florida ( we have seniors dying of COPD daily, The entire state of people are infected with Heavy metal intrusion in their bronchial system .( the human system cannot recover from this) it paralells the 30,000 dying in N ew York from Cystic fibrosis as the aftermath of 9-11 -another assault on the people by the "Complex"- The Governor's Right Hand cabinet member ( Gov Scott , Adam Putnam his farmers are not going to get any live crops out of the ground with no photosynthesis- It is pure and simple The silence is complicity –Scott is in bed with the Military and the Bankers
After three years of informing and educating my community of the aerosol crimes in our sky, the "Total Apathy" of my customers has forced me to take drastic action. Slowly they will awaken as ALL of the good things in their lives are taken from them, starting with their Charlie's Pizza. I am making drastic changes in my life in an effort to reach more people. Many of them think that I am bluffing, but I am not. After word on the streets of my plans spread quickly, our local newspaper asked me for an interview. Here is the story that ran on the front page of The Peninsula Clarion in Nikiski, Alaska.
Never Give Up!!!
http://peninsulaclarion.com/news/2016-06-15/from-flour-to-flowers
GOOD FOR YOU STEVEN!!!!!
I read the article (great article & I really dont blame you)! It can be MADDENING trying ro talk with those who seemingly just don't want to k ow the truth! I couldn't believe the 4 immature responses to the article, "did the pizza come in tinfoil that you could form into a hat"!!!
if thats all you get after serving great pizza for over that long a time period, I'd likely do the same I think! This stuff is killing us, our plants, food supply & THE PLANET & people just dont even seem to care!
With growing food becoming more difficult, if not nearly illegal in some areas, it just sounds like the right thing to do @ this point in time! GOOD JOB SIR!!!
Jeff.
THIS IS A GREAT STORY! IM SO PROUD OF YOU! I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR SO LONG TO REACH OUT TO OTHERS…STARTING WITH SOCIAL MEDIA…EVEN DOCUMENTING CHEMTRAILS/WEATHER PATTERNS THROUGH VIDEOS AND PICTURES AND ARTICLES…SHARING WITH EVERYONE I KNOW. I HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY RESPONSES AND PEOPLE APPRECIATING MY INFORMATIVE POSTS. BUT EVEN THAT AT TIMES DOESNT SEEM LIKE ENOUGH…THE GENERAL RESPONSE I GET IS "YA, BUT EVEN IF THATS SO..WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? THERES NOTHING WE CAN DO..THEY ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN US." I REMIND THEM THAT OUR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES ARE BEING SPRAYED AND SLOWING KILLED UNDER OUR NOSES AND THAT SOCIETY IS DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT. THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WANT TO SPEAK UP…BUT UNFORTUNATELY ITS NOT. THE MOST I CAN DO IS SHARE AND KEEP SHARING THE TRUTH. AND YOU DEFINITELY ARE DOING YOUR PART. THE WORLD WILL PUT US DOWN. BUT I KNOW NEVER CHOOSE TO UN-KNOW THAN TO NOT CARE. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK…AND FOLLOW YOUR CALLING.
JEZ
An increase in headaches makes a lot of sense given the conditions in which we all live under (https://youtu.be/QWKuVDShtfU). It's going to get worse and we may never recover from the spot we are all in. Get ready to resist the mark of the beast the microchip implant the bar code whatever it is as resources become scarce the unwilling to convert to holiness population would find the mark of the beast the last card to keep business as usual and that is the epitome of insanity the spiritual nature of identifying yourself as property of the corrupt system is evil beyond our words we been warned in the Bible it's better die than to submit and take the mark. It's better to be paranoid than to be comfortable and enjoy screwing others and feeding off of worldly trash which is insane it should be clear.
Obama wants to "put science back in it's place . " I guess he means in the hands of a few rich people again . There has been a world wide eradication of scientific government employment . Here in Canada our former prosthetic Prime Minister Steven Harper made it illegal for the scientific community to share scientific data with each other . That should help put science back in it's place , if that place is somewhere in the dark ages .
There are huge short comings in funding for research into things like the aluminum salts in the vaccines , GMO foods , alzhiemer's , not many billionaires care to know about these things . However there is no shortage of money for scientists that wish to denounce global warming as a hoax . It is well known that the Koch foundations support such studies but there are others as you well might know . Barre Sied donates countless millions to people like Dr. William Happer , Dr. Richard Lindzen and Dr. Patrick Moore through his "Heartland Foundation". Here is what his money paid for ," Man made global warming "Irrational and based on nonsense , "has nothing to do with science " and "demonization of CO/2 is irrational at best."
The globe is warming or the globe isn't warming , who gives a shit , there are jet airplanes spraying us as if we are some kind of infestation . "It's time to put science back in it's place."
I forced myself to watch the Al Smith dinner speeches given by Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Talk about extreme weirdness. As I gazed at this display of privileged pomposity, I could not stop seeing a vast array of imagery in my mind's eye: aerosol trails spewn out by the hundreds of thousands over the land I was born and raised in, contaminating EVERYTHING, including not only me and everyone I know, but every single tuxedo and evening gown-bedecked buffoon at this repulsive event reserved for only the tiniest fraction of the half of one percent. How many of these august personalities, when questioned, would openly admit (or even know) that YES, WE ARE, IN FACT, BEING SPRAYED EVERYDAY WITH A WITCH'S BREW OF EXTREMELY TOXIC NANO-PARTICLES OF ALUMINUM, BARIUM, STRONTIUM, COAL FLY-ASH, CROSS-DOMAIN BIOLOGICAL LAB-CREATED WEAPONS OF UNIMAGINABLE COMPLEXITY AND SOPHISTICATION, AND GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT ELSE?? Gee, if thousands of climate scientists won't (or can't) openly acknowledge the obvious global spraying underway, what might we expect from the EGO EXTRAVAGANZA on full display at the Al Smith dinner?
Of course, I am making an obvious point. Or is it so obvious? The movers and shakers who appear to run this goddamned country are out of the loop. The rogue sons-of-bitches who are actually carrying out the gargantuan weather-mod/warfare programs are, I am certain, very, very selective about who is privy to the ultimate plan. And I will wager that most, if not all, of the fleshy idiots at the Al Smith dinner are NOT allowed in. And that includes Hillary. Which leaves us with a possible realization. Do we really think a mere President (there are close to 40 security level clearances above the President of the United States) has even an ounce of influence when it pertains to climate engineering programs? How naive of us to imagine that this, or any election, might make a difference. The relationship between elected government, the almighty intelligence agencies, and the military is a labyrinthine maze well beyond my pay grade. I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed and I readily admit it. I'm nowhere near as smart as some who comment here regularly. But of one thing I am certain, our biosphere is collapsing. For no other reason than this, billions will die. That will likely include all the fat and comfortable folks at the Al Smith dinner, not to mention all the Roman Catholics who stage the absurd and embarrassing event.
And STILL, even at this late stage of biosphere collapse and environmental apocalypse, the two candidates running for President, in whom so many tens of millions of Americans invest some kind of grandiose relevance, BARELY EVEN MENTION ANYTHING PERTAINING TO OUR IMPENDING DOOM. Why?? Why is so little discussion of environmental issues in the foreground of this election? When did it become uncool to tackle environmental issues in the context of a campaign? The profound lack of political emphasis on the supreme issue of environmental degradation will be a boomerang that returns to fatally gore us all in the mid-section. A strong argument can be made that as a culture, we are all complete idiots and not yet worthy of ascension. Over the coming millennia, if we are very, very lucky and do not go extinct, maybe we'll get another chance.
We were warned about the military-industrial-congressional complex and what would happen if there were no checks put on the system. Well, take a good look around folks, this is exactly what Eisenhower warned us about. For those who haven't read the whole speech, I encourage you to do so. You'll keep saying 'he was right' to yourself over and over. An interesting quote from that speech:
"The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present and is gravely to be regarded." – Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
Love your speeches Marc! They always energize that 'call to action' part of my being ( and all humans I suspect) where it's no longer enough to 'observe' and take note. The time is NOW for direct, and purposeful action by all concerned to grab the rope and pull mightily.
This is a 'tug o war' of enormous magnitude. Folks like Dane are at the front of the rope but the 'other side' currently has more power and despite 'our' rage and shock and astonishment at what is occurring, we are LOSING ground and not GAINING ground.
But, there is still time to add rope pullers and reverse the direction the rope is traveling and the only way for this to occur is for more 'pullers' to line up behind Dane and the GEW faithful. All those 'here' share one common attribute; we were all 'blind' to what is happening until someone raised 'our' awareness. It doesn't matter when or how-what matters is that more and more people gain this 'awareness' and speed is now the requirement.
See the attached link to a terrific production that uses 'real' news reports and existing documentary footage to hammer home exactly where we are now and how little time remains to avert an irreversible disaster that is coming unless we ALL change.
A frailty of humanity is sometimes our inability to see the larger picture as we focus on how things affect us personally and become bogged down in the local detail. This behavior multiplied is our weakness and why we can be so easily deluded and manipulated.
The 70 min video does superb job in framing precisely where we are RIGHT NOW using REAL events. For those that struggle to convince those still 'asleep' and ignorant of the emergency sirens and flashing lights that are everywhere (all of us) this may assist in the wake up call.
Note:it's nearly impossible for a rational soul to ignore and discount the reality; especially since now nearly everyone alive is facing some sort of weather related prelude of what is certainly to come.
There's a lot of rope available where hands can help grip and pull- but there's not a lot of time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va_MVxpboqg
'The Age of Stupid"
Marc: A great piece of writing, as usual! Whether you acknowledge it or not, you have a way of seeing the horrendous obvious–as per that sickening collection of mostly psychopathic creatures swimming in effete opulence- rubbing elbows. I kept wondering how many men in the group abused young, defenseless choir boys. And in the skies above New York peril comes equally on them and us. You speak for us, Marc. And I thank you.
It just shows that stupid can not be fixed and refuses it. You have the illegitimate part right Dane on these idiots, for they are idiots who will find out one day if they change not their ways. Their day will come in the End Times for not one mocks the Lord and gets away with it for He says they refuse Him-our Heavenly Father, not the Earthly one. So much for Honoring their Father and Mother with their wicked works. There is no reasoning with fools braying in the wind of 2 legged Jackasses.
before they stand before 'The Lord'? they will be standing before the Lord because they killed themselves the dumb asses.
Got to stop it somehow all I’m saying…
Hello Patrick,
Have you considered that helping "stop it somehow" might be to place yourself in the front of the public, distributing materials and videos directly to the public, at a local public function such as a street fair, art show, venues where most persons are unaware of what's happening? All you need to do is "plant a seed" in their mind enough to get the person to thinking and doing more research on this subject.
Consider perhaps one day a month for only a few hours, for Patrick then if all of http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org 's readers did this, it would grow exponentially, creating/getting the awareness out to more and more people.
Give it a try this weekend, set up a table at the farmer's market to distribute/talk/show passers by materials on this important matter. Let us all know how it turned out for you. It's up to you and me to do our small part everyday, dedicating what time and resources we have available at our disposal
Steve, I couldn't have said it better myself. Not that I needed to hear it from you.,but I just can't understand why NONE of the people that I am informing EVERYDAY are joining us. It is very discouraging to say the least.
Never Give up!!!
Got to stop it somehow
The fact that two of them had exactly the same response, word for word, means that they have been handed a script from someone else. This has 'centralised control' written all over it.
But despite this, the survey resulted in an unanimous correlation (must use science terms,). Climate Engineering is happening according to scientific community consensus.
A few words about scientific terms: on various sites, including 'CoolAustralia', in their inept and disastrously short discursions on the topic of climate change, they conclude on some parts by saying, "There will be winners and losers." This is where the cat is out of the bag. 'Winners and losers' is not part of any scientific discussion.
How are these science terms? They are not. What it means is that there will be much damage and deliberately so from these programs whereby many people will be devastated. But for them to actually think they had to say this shows their hubris. They are that stupid to think they can get away with such horrendous admissions.
Those types of terms should be causing marching in the streets, for they make it transparent that sociopaths are behind this and their complete lack of morality blinds them to their own utterly callous admissions. Their words display how they think: conscienceless cretins.
This kind of propaganda based on lies is easy to spot and should be arrested immediately.
It's a Bird, It's a Plane No, It's a "CON"trail!!! La,La,La, They are the Idiots.
The NY Times spewing propaganda for David Keith, etc. Can Humans Go From Unintended Global Warming to Climate By Design? /By Andrew C. Revkin October 18, 2016
Geoengineering is in the wind more and more these days, particularly the use of sun-blocking aerosols as a cheap, temporary counterweight to greenhouse-gas-driven global warming. … We’ve been terrible at managing emissions. Can we shift from unintended global warming to managing climate by design? Welcome to the geoengineering debate. … the rich discussion of geoengineering that follows, involving some of the analysts and scientists most involved in examining next steps. They include Oliver Morton of The Economist, Raymond Pierrehumbert of Oxford University, and Gernot Wagner and David Keith of Harvard. … I’ve been shifting my thinking based on recent conversations with some of the analysts below pointing to a reasonable, testable, incremental path to managing sun-blocking aerosols as the world tackles the far tougher and costlier effort to decarbonize a growing economy that remains deeply dependent on fossil fuels. … for example, this 2015 paper by David Keith and Douglas G. MacMartin of the California Institute of Technology: “A temporary, moderate and responsive scenario for solar geoengineering.” (Their work is part of a suite of research projects paid for through a fund established by Bill Gates.)
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/10/18/can-humans-go-from-unintended-global-warming-to-climate-by-design/?_r=1
quote: "Geoengineering is in the wind more and more these days… particularly the use of sun-blocking aerosols as a cheap, temporary counterweight to greenhouse-gas-driven global warming "
Wow, how Freudian is that!
Why wait till 2017 put the movie out now. We cant wait any longer my lungs cant take it anymore. The smell of alluminum every day is mentally breaking me down and physically given me asthma we need action now.
Hello Mother of 2, yes, it is important for the documentary to be released as soon as possible. This being said, the filmmaker, Walter Schmidt, is doing his best to reach new audiences by enrolling the film in multiple film fesivals. If he releases the film before the festivals occur, the film would be disqualified. If all goes well at the festivals, the documentary will reach a much larger overall audience. I am sure the filmmaker will post updates soon. In the meantime, we have volumes of existing data we can share with the uninformed, every day counts.
I am so sickened by the whole system being rigged against we the American people in every aspect of life including the mad science community it seems the cabal have such an army of liars and thieves how could they have accomplished such an enormous web of corruption without being exposed? Dane has done such a wonderful tireless job to expose this horror we find ourselves living with, my heart breaks from the denial of the INSANITY being forced on all life! I have been very sick over the past few months (I contribute much of it from the poison being forced to breath). My gratefulness to all that are helping to expose this unimaginable insanity slowly killing all life on earth. Pray for a great awakening of humanity in this grim future we are facing, strength, health and love to all! R.
Wow. How often do you receive a response from people answering in their professional capacity that says "you people are idiots"? Especially considering this was in response to a politely worded survey.
Classy duo.
MIT also is working on creating drinking water from San Francisco, CA Bay area fog. OH how yummy. If we are not already exposed enough from the stuff in the air. Soon we will get to drink it by the gallon. Meanwhile people will make bank, off the weather conditions.
http://news.mit.edu/2013/how-to-get-fresh-water-out-of-thin-air-0830
Great, just GREAT!!! So the f*cking MILITARY A$$HOLES (with Gen. Mark "Narcissus" Milley leading the charge, beating us all "harder than you've ever been beaten before— arrrrrrghhh!!!" no doubt), get to STEAL OUR WATER here in the formerly sunny state of California, then spray it with toxic garbage and finally sell it back to us, the proceeds of which, undoubtedly, will be deposited directly into the endowment of our egg-headed "leaders," (whom I would not follow across the street) who run The Show from the Department of Geoengineering back in Boston– A$$HOLES ALL OF THEM!!!!! It's past time for another TEA-PARTY, the likes of which you've never seen: THROW THE BUMS INTO BOSTON HARBOR… while wearing cement shoes.
Great approach with the survey. I'll take a wild guess. That the 970, who did not open the email survey. Got a tweet, or email, from someone who did. Sort of goes to show how connected they all are. (I can only imagine this, from my impression. ) Another clue was. To get the same exact worded, reply from 2 people also goes to show.
Dane & LASG, Thank you for your efforts & witty approaches, to exposing such, known as, so called :experts". (Expert Liars!)
Took a trip this week to the Bay Area (San Francisco). went there on Sunday and returned on Wednesday. We had strong rain and wind on Saturday in SF. That cleared out much of the man made aerosol particulates and the carbon, too. Sunday was relatively a beautiful day. Monday saw the return of the weather control terrorists. The jets began their spraying of the long white sky destroying trails. Slowly it was ratcheted up so that by Wednesday, the day I returned north to Mendocino, the sky everywhere, and particularly to the east, was laced with horizon to horizon parallel trails. And there were many too that were chopped up, laid down in pieces like giant dashes. Yes, lots of squiggles also. By the time I got back here the blue sky was destroyed. Jets were flying one after the other and inexorably the blue was morphed into the ubiquitous white grunge from horizon to horizon. The jet stream is flowing directly over California. This flow is a river of moisture. The aerosol spray is designed for the purpose of sucking dry the atmosphere and reconstituting it into the long white trails that linger and spread out and gather up the atmospheric humidity. Because so much of the nation's weather is born off our Pacific coast, this region is dead center, ideal, as the target for initiating weather control for much of the continent's weather systems. The aerosol assault will in earnest continue until the jet stream is pushed north by the very powerful microwave systems that change low pressure to high pressure and can literally block and chop up the jet stream when this suits the control freaks ' weather purposes.
i too want to mention that it is a daily occurrence for me to wake up every morning with a burning throat and difficulty in swallowing. Is this a result of these aerosols settling down to the ground, and coating the back of the throat while sleeping? I don't know. Maybe others here are experiencing this, too. I do know the atmosphere in the forest on the hills and in the valley are covered in a white aerosol fog all the time. There is no pristine air, not even after a powerful storm such as we had last weekend. My flashlight beam shows the heavy concentrations at night.
This morning, just as the sun was slowing creating a glow, I looked north. There were evenly placed long-lined striations beaming south like the crown rays on the head of the Statue of "Liberty." These rays of microwave-assembled particulated moisture radiated out like some kind of phased purpose not conducive to natural order, but obvious as man made. I am going to refer to them as the "rays of theon" (Raytheon). The science priesthood is arrogant. They have acquired "God" status, so they project for us to believe in their mystique. They are removed from public accountability. By giving the high sign to the inquiry, they default and admit what we on this board already know.
@BaneB: Perfect. My right wrist is recovering rapidly now so I'll be appearing up in Ukiah again for a few days the first two weekends in December at Mendo College and then for the Ukiah SDA Christmas pageant. The weather terrorists control the planet, no matter where you go. I've had people ask me why don't I think about relocating "where this isn't happening." ANOTHER form of cluelessness– ughhhh!!!
Hello BaneB — You say, "I too want to mention that it is a daily occurrence for me to wake up every morning with a burning throat and difficulty in swallowing." I have recently increased my Silica intake. Try these ideas: Take FLORA Vegetal Silica 2 capsules, 3x a day (don't take with VitC – as C is said to counteract the Silica). Gargle with ECO-DENT Ultimate Natural Daily Rinse 3 or 4x a day (excellent stuff for gums as well). Use SEAGATE Olive Leaf Nasal or Throat Spray whenever you feel like it, to relieve your symptoms. I also use Colloidal Silver and Synertek Colostrum serum or powder on a regular basis. I was sick for about a month with respiratory stuff, but kicked it…so far. It's a daily battle. What worked for me, may not for you. But it's worth a try.
Well said BaneB, "the Science priesthood is arrogant" and as this culture disturbingly descends ever deeper into technology's materialistic hellhole Ahriman smiles. We must stay strong in our efforts to protect our earth and eachother and pray to the angels on high. God bless!
Susan: Thank you for your suggestion.
I contacted some scientists, early in 2016, who are not on your survey and some who are. I'll now share more info & will double check addresses. Thanks.
Thank you Dane and the LASG members and supporters. To those who chose not to answer the survey, I wonder if they've ever glanced up and noticed the tic-tac-toe markings, or seen a white plume emanating from a plane that lasts for miles and miles — not disappearing but spreading out like gauze, or any other abnormal pattern in their sky. If not, they're either liars or never look up.
They bring to mind a phrase mentioned in a previous report, "American exceptionalism" — they are exceptionally corrupt and devious, exceptionally willing to sacrifice all life on Earth for immediate personal gains, and an exceptional embarrassment to all who see the bigger picture. Fair warning to their children and parents: these greedy disaster capitalists will leave you gasping for breath on your deathbed with nary a second thought.
Please, friends, start researching the numerous plants and fungi that can help us detox from heavy metals falling from our skies, and countless other assaults on our health: from GMOs, to artificial flavors and colors, to the massive amounts of sugar (from GMO beets) in virtually all processed "food-like substance," all designed to send us to doctors for deadly prescriptions and hospitals when their side-effects kick in, providing you have the funds to pay or your disease-maintenance "insurance" is willing to pay.
It's an uphill battle, but one we MUST fight if we hope to maintain any sanity. Knowing you are among like-minded people here should help, but there's no substitute for personal learning. One place to start is with turmeric. There are thousands more to investigate. Explore one healing plant per day and in a week or two you'll be smarter than your average allopathic MD on the subject of nutrition. You CAN do it!
Kathleen and All,
Just want to add this (and I imagine many already know this, but wanted to reiterate):
For virtually every biological toxin (poison) that exists there exists an *antidote*. Not all perhaps, but in general most. Many of the toxic elements said to now be being found in extremely high concentrations in air, rain and soil as well as likely in most of us, from the G-E insanity, (ie. aluminum, barium etc.) have a 'countepart' that is not normally toxic and in fact required for the body to function in a healthy state. If we make sure to have optimal quantities of the needed naturally occurring minerals etc. (and their cofactors) it makes it much much harder for the toxic elements to bind.
In contrast, if we are chock full of toxic elements that bind to our receptors the needed elements (etc.) cannot bind or not bind successfully. In this is a template for vastly improved health. For myself, having such things (just to name one) as large quantities of magnesium rich food (ie LOTS of healthy greens) is crucial for mitigating many of the toxic elements from bioaccumulating. Bioaccumulation of toxic elements is *a* root cause of disease. As we all appear to be targeted now (unless you have your own elitist bunker) this is an area I hope will be explored more on this site and others. (Dane I read your personal routine, nice). I personally think chemists and biochemists will be the most successful *medical* doctors in our future, as they apply there knowledge of health through chemistry to our PURPOSELY poisoned world.
And just one more thought: Don't ever let the b-stards wear you down.
They may have the money and virtually unlimited resources (for now) but we have the Divine Will on our side.
Dishonesty at it's best. Most of academia cannot even step up to answer the question, they absolutely remove themselves from answering the question. They should be asked why they are not answering the question at all, no matter what their opinion/response is.
Good point!
Skies in Pacifica totally chemtrailed and HAARPED, almost all day long. I use the term chemtrailed, because the sprayed chemicals behave totally different than normal water vapor. Got very sick after that very first 'storm' here in SF area (CA), during which chemtrails were MIXED with rain, including visible HAARPING towards the storm's end, when skies became partially clear and one could see the higher 'clouds'. It is a CONSTANT ASSAULT by the criminals, whom I wish the worst, sorry, but I must say that. Also stopping the chemtrailing WOULD NOT increase the 'global warming'. An example of it was ~2 months brake during summer '16 (July and Aug), which did not result in any warmer weather, on contrary, I'd say…
Anon; consider the children of Haiti or central Africa…
Back in the day when I lived in Berkeley…60s,70, and all hell broke loose-but only for awhile…Main reason: Apathetic people. The comic strip character, Pogo, once exclaimed, "I have met the enemy. It is us!" We are a tiny group worldwide and, of course, must hold our stance, even though it is glaringly obvious that as a species, humanity will self destruct. As Dane said, "We have broken through the guard rail and into the canyon." Stay steady and thank you all.
This shit has got to stop or else, you know I can't believe they are doing this to such a beautiful planet EARTH! I am stepping up and am going to try to email a lot of these so called "scientists" in denial fucking greedy bastards.. Now this IS going to halt it, but not so sure how soon.. I have to believe it will be stopped too! Damnit Dane, you are doing a great job! Keep it up!! Exposed this system!
Oh God! Look at this huge Mammoth in the room! Unbelievable…
be sure that we will point our fingers when the Truth breaks free.
How will they feel when they see their loved-ones die the same rotten death like the rest of us….will they then be sorry having been a part of this?!
Tough times are ahead of us, that worries me every day!
Thank you for fighting the only fight that matters now!!
Thank you Dane and LASG!!
I was thrilled today that an elderly couple noticed my signs on being sprayed on my car and asked what it was about? I was able to give them a brochure and go over it a little and referred them to your website. Yeah!! This is why I had signs made for my van. These moments keep me hopeful!
thanks again for all your information and tireless work
Namaste
We'll find the same cowards of the medical professions in bed with the big pharma corps with their vaccine poisonings and/or GMO producers.
Great work from LASG and geoengineering watch for carrying out this survey w 1518 climate scientists. These are very scary times when the so called experts are full of s..t. or b.s. etc. The same can also be said of all the environmental groups w the half truths . They wouldn't touch geoengineering or climate engineering.. No matter how depressing the scenario is we all have to do our part for the greater good.
An excellent exercise in consensus. As valid a poll as you would ever find. A 100% result similar to the Coal Fly Ash leachate correlation tests. This information has to be distributed as widely as possible.
The world IS awaking up, slowly but surely. A friend of mine sent me this clip and I about fell over! Wow! It's supposed to be "funny", but of course, it 'isn't'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vca7c04r95I I have to wonder how many "Chemtrail Cowboys" have seen this. How can they sleep at night.
Deb, that was good. Thanks
Excellent, Deb. Thanks!
well to me this video has to really explain how they feel about spraying us. videos been out over 2 years but i never seen it before.,Im going to show it as much as i can. thanks for posting it. thanks to dane for all his brilliant work.
Thank you Eric for the tip on Essiac tea….will try some for detoxing
Every little tip helps in this fight to maintain health in the face of rather overwhelming odds
It is still hard for ordinary people like ourselves to grasp the sheer enormity of the evil that has permeated the entire world now. The corruption and anti-life agendas which are so willingly perpetrated by the 'brown shirts' in Government departments/NGO's/Corporations in return for money and status are of tsunami proportions now. It's said that a fish rots from the head down and the smell of sulfur from these diabolic entities (aka, scientists, politicians etc) is becoming all too noticeable from anyone that cares to see. How far indeed has man fallen if so many in authority are prepared to watch their fellow citizen die a slow and painful death in return for personal or professional gain?
Bravo, James. Brilliant post.
I have to give James a second bravo for sure thanks for saying it. God bless us all
'brown shirts' – excellent analogy James
Thanks Dane for fighting the good fight. Reading your updates no matter how frustrating or heartbroken I am not completely hopeless as I would be otherwise. Everyone in & around my life think I'm crazy & out of my mind concerning this & many other wakened subjects. Thank you for your honor in doing the right thing. You validate us non-scientists that can see plainly without Ph.D. Doctoral degrees. Much love 2U&Urs. Peace
I live in the Sacramento region of California. We are being decimated again today with plane, after plane, after plane spewing geometry all over the sky. I got a letter from CONGRESSMAN AMI BERA (up for re-election) in regards to climate change and the need for renewables. NO WHERE did his letter talk about Stratospheric Aerosol Injection, SRM, or the health fall out (mind you, he's a doctor). What is even more disturbing is that he sits on the Committee on SCIENCE, SPACE, AND TECHNOLOGY. Probably the exact people charged with covering this up. I called his office today to ask their official position on this subject and all I got was a stammering intern.
CONTACT AMI BERA @ (916) 635-0505 Sacramento Office
or @ (202) 225-5716 Washington Office.
I will no longer vote until I have a representative that will talk about this issue.
I will contact him as I have spoken with him in a small setting before he served, but anyone in a position of power will be silenced immediately..This is the barrier we face as fear is their weapon of choice.
One should not exclude the possibility that these scientists are carefully monitored in everything what they do. If you want information from within the climate engineering community these people must be offered the possibility to give you information in a way that their identity is maximally protected. Do not underestimate the enemy. They are no amateurs. The experience with evil and secret organisations with silencing people is well known and the number of people who have disappeared or were suicided is well known. My mom always said: be careful and know what you say but do not say what you know …
Well said! "A wise man conceals knowledge"
Or go in one big group to the pubic with disclosure. There is such a thing as safety in numbers.
Well said!
They are not scientists.They are payed.Same as payed media Look up the writing is on the sky.
Excellent Article Dane,
I think you don't have to be a scientist to figure out that Geo-Engineering is going on. This being said, it is great to see that "the intellectually gifted" among us finally start to wake up as well.
The media disinformationn machine is coming apart at the seams. So many believe collaborating with powerful government agencies will safe their paycheck and keep them away from harm. Meanwhile we are all "heading to Auschwitz in a train" and whoever believes not speaking up against the ongoing lethal aerosol operations will safe them needs a reality check.
"Cowards die many times before their actual deaths."~ Julius Caesar
SF: A friend of mine helped develop the software that drastically changed the “paper” newspaper business – basically destroyed it, as I like to remind him. He told me that even back then he was forced to sign very stringent nondisclosure agreements that carried heavy penalties. These people are very aware of the legal charges they face if they foolishly admit anything.
Corporate Laws: A nondisclosure agreement, which is also referred to as a confidentiality agreement, a proprietary information agreement or a confidential disclosure agreement, is a legally-binding contract formulated between at least two parties to outline confidential material, intelligence or any information that the parties wish to share with one another, but wish to restrict access to by third parties and the general public. The nondisclosure agreement is a formal contract through which the participating parties agree not to disclose pertinent company-specific information latent in the agreement. The nondisclosure agreement creates a confidential relationship between the active parties that solidifies the protection against any type of confidential or proprietary information involving the underlying company’s trade secrets or business plan. It enforces it’s participants to adhere to the stipulations of the contract; if an individual violates a nondisclosure agreement and makes the latent information public or divulges the secrets to a third party the individual will be held in contempt and may face legal charges.
http://corporate.laws.com/nondisclosure-agreement
Well one thing is for certain. There is no shortage of cowards.
Such a large number of REFUSENIKS– SO much corruption of the human soul! That's what's driving the DENIAL. When you have people such as the C.I.A. agent who said that The Biggest Enemy of the whole stinking mess is YOUR OWN FEAR, I'd say we have a whole lof of DENIED fear, mainly, as well.
Hello Dane and friends, thank you for your Work.
Fear, corruption denial and paradoxically; IGNORANCE, from the ones that answer as – scientists -. Maybe they do not know that aluminum ( and mercury ) is toxic for the brain. Maybe they do not know that the aluminum nano particles have a desiccant effect on Trees. Maybe they do NOT know also that lead is probably the most poisonous of ALL metals, for the Human Health. And I'm sure that they DO NOT KNOW that the life time of lead is – FOREVER. Or maybe they are only narcissistic and frustrated sociopath without sons and daughters.
Good Luck to Us All.
Just like an Ostrich. People rather stick their heads into the sand. Instead of knowing, or even seeing, what is really going on around them.
As an active activist against this diabolical plan I also trying to assist people in detoxing these heavy metals with Essiac Tea. This tea has been helping a enormous amounts of people detoxing, boosting immune systems, cancer, high blood pressure and diabetes. It helps to draw out toxins from the liver. Eat and rest well. We need to do all we can till this is over. Praying everyday.
Thank you very much for the precious info, Eric ( USA ).
thanks for your detox infor. i will just offer what happen to me when i placed an oline order for this tea, and several other alternitive type medical supplies this government simply would not let me receive them here. this is costa rica . after running me around to three divertent gov. office i simply was refused. the order was over 400 america. i think big pharma has a little to much influence here. just a tip know before you go.
I don't think those involved on all the different levels realise what they will be up against when the masses find out what is being done to them. I know I want justice, and there won't be enough prisons. Those FEMA camps can house those who have been commiting and hiding the omnicide while they wait trial for crimes against humanity.
Thank you Dane and LASG
I doubt there will even be a system to take them to trial. For the very same people who hold the places of power. To hold such a trial. Are in on it too.
Amazing how these same scientist lash out at those they deem deniers when discussing climate change. And yet these scientist are the first to deny geoengineering when there is SO much data to prove it does EXIST and has for the better part of 6 decades.
Aren’t scientist suppose to prove a theory wrong by proving it’s existence with testing and research? So why are these scientist so unwilling to not even prove whether geoengineering exist or not?
And then we have the head of the CIA saying geoengineering needs to be considered. My feeling on scientist is that most if not all are bought and sold by their respective governments and just tow the government line which is say whatever the Gov’t wants them to say.