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1. Given, regarding ocean fertilization, "…a lot of countries, within a relatively few years [moved] from…knowing absolutely nothing…to having a legal ban…across 90 countries…", does anyone know what sorts of things were done to raise the awareness to have that ban happen? [Not that we've got the luxury of "relatively few years" regarding geoengineering.]

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2. I'm so disappointed in Greenpeace! What are they doing being partners in this gang? On the other side, their scientist didn't seem to know so much of the effects that these chem trails are causing. He is recommended to go through all the evidence that Dane has on his page Geoengineeringwatch.org

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3. I thank Jill Buck, Dr. Santillo, Dane and everyone else,  including all of you on this Website for raising awareness on this Major Issue. One topic I disagree with is Jill making the statement during the first part of her radio show, that GeoEngineering is being discussed more frequently by the Media! I feel Media Corporations need to openly discuss GeoEngineering more frequently and in more specific detail. How could any Research Firm, Military Group, Scientists and Government Agencies be willing to experiment with our Climate System, by administering these Climate Engineering Programs, without knowing the true impacts and results of outcomes on the Biosphere and human health.

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   1. They sure know now what the impacts are!  The UN agenda summit of 1992 explicitly asked for the study of the effects of the depletion of the ozone layer and the resulting elevated UBV radiation on terrestrial and oceanic plants and animals including humans and find ways to mitigate the effects.

       

4. In the end it was the hostess herself, Jill Buck, who stated loud and clear the single defining Natural Fact about the condition our Condition is in:  "We are out of time."

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5. When you consider the total effort of Geoengineering ie the disruption to normal rainfall patterns and now the subsequent failure of crops around the world; the toxicity of SRM aluminium fallout and subsequent deadening of the worlds' soils; the Monsanto patents on abiotic genes for all food plants and perhaps other species; the massive effort to build and fill seed arks with all the world's varieties of seeds, perhaps the simplest answer is the most apparent one: they know they are destroying everything, they need genetic samples for later deployment and they have the science to perhaps make all plant species abiotic.

   Of course this envisioning of a future man made ecosystem will just be a Frankenstein's Monster that will not emulate what Nature produced over billions of years. There will be massive failures, disaster upon disaster and when it all fails to deliver their insane wants, they will shrug their shoulders and not really care. The next game will attract them like a flame does a moth.

   I have considered the vast numbers of farmers around the world who must be aware of this issue and how to harness their voices. I imagine farmers are natural sky watchers. Their knowledge, at least traditionally, of the weather must be intimate. Many of them would now use science and official weather information and surely they know something is wrong?

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   1. Yes, one would believe those farmers not captured by BigAg would be shouting from the roof tops.  Maybe there is a website:  Farmers Against Geoengineering.

   2. I agree with you, but I can say that even the college educated farmers where I live have no clue that the weather is being intentionally modified and they are getting ill (along with their crops as a result)

       

6. Thank you Yamakawa!  Gee I was so tired from studying yesterday so much, that I made a few errors!  Imagine that…..I knew you would know and get it.  This man I mentioned is Professor Salva Epstein.  And boy does he love love microbes.  He, himself is fascinating.  And he is utterly fascinated and in love with microbes.  Which are a vast world, universe really way beyond us, with much to offer to the right person.  And yes! a craft of balance, something Japan excels in!  After mentioning you to Susan, it may have seemed I meant you when I said he, meaning Epstein who has cultured two new microbes perhaps for use as antibiotics which would be revolutionary.  It was one of these that as he cultured it gained color.

   In the reproducibility tests, I hit the "and" sign instead of 7, as in 70% of scientists who are complaining and that is a lot out of these 1,576.  As I recall, it was not broken down by fields of interest.  Gave the impression of across the boards.  Which is very scary I think, and indicative of what passes for science these days.  I do realize that some things are so complex and delicate that legitimate mistakes could be made, but the issue is not being able to prove or correct them!  And we all know where that has put us!  Furthermore, the definite bias in science these days, at least in the US.  And in addition to bias or with it, prejudice against new thinking or anything that goes against current politics influencing science.  Also quite scary.  Would that science could be free from politics!

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7. In the aftermath of some heavy spraying over San Diego County, today we have a "public relations" sky.  By that, I mean, if you have no recollection of what a blue sky is supposed to look like and you looked out your window this afternoon you might say, "Gee, what a beautiful day!"  But, if you do remember what a blue sky looks like and you went outside and looked straight up, you might say, "Oh, wow.  It looks like there's kind of a filmy white misty-looking haze layer moving on the breeze that's a little uneven in its application and that's obscuring the beautiful deep blue sky I should be seeing."  Then, you might ask yourself, "Why does my mouth have this weird metallic taste and why do the sides of my tongue feel like they're coated with something?"  Then, being a rational person, you might conclude that there is a relationship between the filmy blue/white sky and the metallic taste in your mouth – perhaps even a causal one.  And I'm pretty sure you would be correct.  I guess the moral of the story is:  When the best days are still bad days we have a serious problem.  Like we didn't know that already though, right?  

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8. Greenpeace, Sierra Club, David Suzuki are dead to me. What the environmentalists have done or not done is deplorable, unforgivable and criminal. 

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9. Oh Susan,  In a lame effort to provide links as you so often do,  I did not find a link to the long article about Professor Salva Epstein, this reprinted from the New Yorker under Annals of Science, June 20, 2016.  This the amazing one about microbes, titled: The Unseen.
   The other was Natures's feature story: 1,500 Scientists Lift the Lid on Reproducibility.
   There are others there this time that I also want to read.  This is all from: naturepublishinggrp@information.nature.com, called The Nature News Team.  It stated that &70% of researchers have tried and failed to reproduce another scientist's experiments, and more than half have failed to reproduce their own experiments.  And no one seems to care!  As a new and lead story, I felt it applicable to our experience of what is being done to us in the skies, perhaps via the modelers who charge ahead for the money without even testing for reproducibility.
   Regarding Yamakawa and thinking the idea I mentioned came from you, it may have come via one of his links.  We were both thinking along similar lines with regard to microbes, the wonders of microbes.  It is an exciting insight. This also made me think of geoengineering in that these, some of these new ones he has grown gain color and could possibly be the biologics or some of, in the spraying.  A particular one, his first new discovery cultured, gained a pink hue first, later mauve.  Tonight, sun had set, yet pink thin clouds were to the east.  In the day, I often see mauve clouds.  Raytheon themselves said in my research of them, that they color the clouds to tract distribution.
   Susan, you set a high bar!  And I thank you for that, though I will never attain it, I very much admire, and learn.  Thank you! 

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   1. Thank you, Rachel. You are always more than kind to me. I am honored to be here with you, Dane, and everyone at GW. The Truth will out! God Bless.

10. 20 Reasons Why Geoengineering May Be A Bad Idea
    Alan Robock/Professor II in the Department of Environmental Sciences at Rutgers University, New Jersey / Bulletin of Atomic Scientists (May 2008)  excerpts:
    … Ocean fertilization, where iron dust is dumped into the open ocean to trigger algal blooms; genetic modification of crops to increase biotic carbon uptake; carbon capture and storage techniques such as those proposed to outfit coal plants; and planting forests are such examples. Other schemes involve blocking or reflecting incoming solar radiation, for example by spraying sea water hundreds of meters into the air to seed the formation of stratocumulus clouds over the subtropical ocean.
    3. Ozone depletion.
    Aerosol particles in the stratosphere serve as surfaces for chemical reactions that destroy ozone in the same way that water and nitric acid aerosols in polar stratospheric clouds produce the seasonal Antarctic ozone hole. For the next four decades or so, when the concentration of anthropogenic ozone-depleting substances will still be large enough in the stratosphere to produce this effect, additional aerosols from geoengineering would destroy even more ozone and increase damaging ultraviolet flux to Earth’s surface.
    8. Less sun for solar power.
    Scientists estimate that as little as a 1.8-percent reduction in incoming solar radiation would compensate for a doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Even this small reduction would significantly affect the radiation available for solar power systems—one of the prime methods of generating alternate clean energy—as the response of different solar power systems to total available
    sunlight is not linear. This is especially true for some of the most efficiently designed systems that reflect or focus direct solar radiation on one location for direct heating. Following the Mount Pinatubo eruption and the 1982 eruption of El Chichón in Mexico, scientists observed a direct solar radiation decrease of 25 to 35 percent.
    9. Environmental impacts of implementation.
    Any system that could inject aerosols into the stratosphere, i.e., commercial jetliners with sulfur mixed into their fuel, 16-inch naval rifles firing one-ton shells of dust vertically into the air, or hoses suspended from stratospheric balloons, would cause enormous environmental damage. The same could be said for systems that would deploy sun shields. University of Arizona astronomer Roger P. Angel has proposed putting a fleet of 2-foot-wide reflective disks in a stable orbit between the Earth and sun that would bend sunlight away from Earth. But to get the needed trillions of disks into space, engineers would need 20 electromagnetic launchers to fire missiles with stacks of 800,000 disks every five minutes for twenty years. What would be the atmospheric effects of the resulting sound and gravity waves? Who would want to live nearby?
    10. Rapid warming if it stops. A technological, societal, or political crisis could halt a project of stratospheric aerosol injection in mid-deployment. Such an abrupt shift would result in rapid climate warming, which would produce much more stress on society and ecosystems than gradual global warming.
    11. There’s no going back. We don’t know how quickly scientists and engineers could shut down a geoengineering system—or stem its effects—in the event of excessive climate cooling from large volcanic eruptions or other causes. Once we put aerosols into the atmosphere, we cannot remove them.
    15. Commercial control of technology.
    Who would end up controlling geoengineering systems? The government? Private companies holding patents on proprietary technology? And whose benefit would they have at heart? These systems could pose issues analogous to those raised by pharmaceutical companies and energy conglomerates whose products ostensibly serve the public, but who often value shareholder profits over the public good.
    16. Military use of the technology.  The United States has a long history of trying to modify weather for military purposes, including inducing rain during the Vietnam War to swamp North Vietnamese supply lines and disrupt anti-war protests by Buddhist monks.
    http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/20ReasonsBASinpress.pdf

     

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    1. Brilliant, as usual, Susan!

    2. " 16. Military use of the technology.  The United States has a long history of trying to modify weather for military purposes, including inducing rain during the Vietnam War to swamp North Vietnamese supply lines and disrupt anti-war protests by Buddhist monks."

       And we all know how well that worked–  about as well as the other nineteen reasons.

11. Hello Dane and friends, thank you very much for your Work.
    I have some more simple words to share with you all.
    Now I'm really convinced that this Geo engineering that it is been made by the lunatics is only a scam to hide from us a more serious and a much more criminal reality. The goal is disseminate confusion.
    We know of course that this is not a solution for nothing. They are aggravating the problem and causing more CO2 emissions ( with the planes ), and new forms of pollution – with the aerosols.
    So, what is the business?
    Really, I think as many of you may think also, that the principal goal is breaking capacity for Food producing in the World.
    Today I had a Winter day, and in my country and latitude at this time of year ( end of Spring ), it should be a beautiful Sunny and very warm day.
    Dramatic changes in weather as you know can destroy any kind of Food production. Fruit, vegetables or cereals.
    And more, insects as everyone knows, rely on climate stability for their existence. And we need Bees so much… After, comes the lives of small birds that are very necessary ( and we Love ). And so on…
    And, as we know, the aerosols are toxic for these fragile creatures. And produces also acid rain, with nasty metals in between.
    In creating an apocalyptic scenario of Global scarcity of Food, they will have the opportunity of dominate without any protesting the Global "market" of Food production and distribution with their GM – fake poison loaded food – . And the predictable uprising scenario of entire populations with great difficulties in feeding themselves, would give them ( to the nazi petro dollar cabal banking system MFs and its associates ) the opportunity to start filling in the fema concentration camps and God knows what more at World scale..
    …And they can change the sprays, if they want.
    They don't need us and with a Global crisis scenario build, they will have the pretext to "resolve" the problem of CO2 emissions..  …They have said it, I'm not inventing.
    For them this is only business, and big and good business.
    They will have the opportunity to install their pretty nazi MFg "new" talmudic "God" money order. To Erase all cultural diversity, and all Ethnicities they want, Religions and True Nature ( that they will never understand ), to erase the last 7000 years of Human History, since the invention of Agriculture ( that was in ancient Iraq ) and take all the World for them, for their descendants and their associates, The clan of the psychopaths – the sociopath MFg family – and the rest will be the horde of a few hundred millions vaccinated slaves..
    What a beautiful new world…
    Without the Wild, the Wonder, The Forests – with real Ancient Trees. Without The Humanity. All of us.
    Congratulations MFs.
    Good Luck to Us All.

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    1. "Nazi talmudic" is entirely incorrect, a non-existent combination of opposites. Germany's NSDAP were opposed to the Talmudic element and sought to banish it, the last in a long history of efforts by nations to expel those child killing rats. The Talmudic element is synonymous with Communism. The former has been a great driving factor behind the latter.

       Just to help, a correct way to express what you are saying is: "Communist Talmudic", amongst other descriptors. The aim of all the destruction you list is to create a techno feudal society, akin to the tenancy of land renters who worked hard to produce enough to eat and had their efforts heavily taxed by the kings' soldiers forcibly taking a large portion of their food production.

       The techno feudalism will be run by computers and surveillance via biometrics. After they have killed off most of the world's population, the requisite number left will live short, hard lives of servitude, reproduce enough to replace themselves and be slaves for the self-appointed so-called 'elite'. They will subsist on gmo crops that will kind of survive the deadened wastelands that SRM fallout will induce. This is the plan anyway. I do not believe it will come to fruition. I believe a great deal of chaos will occur, but things never go as planned without some amount of uncertainty creeping in.

    2. Pedro, 

       I totally agree with you with one of the main reasons why they are doing this is for the disruption of our food supply.  Depopulation has been on their mind and one of their main goals for a few decades now.   While it can be a number of reasons why they are doing this, I do believe this is the end goal: depopulation. 

       God Bless everyone & I truly appreciate EVERYTHING you do for the common good, Dane & staff.

       Wendy 

    3. Hello Dane and friends, thank you for your Work.
       Hello Mrs Wendy K.
       What is more disturbing is the infinite arrogance of these MFs. They are the classic compulsive sadistic and narcissistic sociopath, that see themselves as Gods ( and the others they erase by war are the terrorists ) …It is possible to make a slow return in the numbers of World pop with time ( in some decades ), with just ( and through ) Family planning. But these genocidal criminals have found the perfect pretext to their delirious "final solution". These MFs are really dangerous and inhuman. 
       If every fertile girl in the World have 2 kids max. That will be more and less 3.5 billion of births in the next 20 years. And many Girls for many reasons chooses to not have kids, or can't….And it is expected to have in the same period of time a little more than 3.5 billion of deaths, from the Persons that will die of "natural" causes and others.
       And of course, we can't live all with the US standard of consumption. That is impossible. And to keep the paradigm of oil centered economy, that is impossible too. And Here we have a BIG F PROBLEM. Because the owners of the money and its associates feed themselves on oil. They would prefer exterminate all our food ( land and Ocean and us ) than losing a part of their profits.
       We need to have Global honest politics to handle ( with care ) this very important issue. But no, what we have is a group of ignorant and narcissistic imbeciles ( in the EU ) that spend millions in international meetings to talk compulsively in debts and interests and coercive measures for those who have debts that do not will be able to pay.
       And in the US is like our friends are saying; Katrina was Geo Engineered??, the LA Earthquake it may have been induced with HAARP technology?? Is worse!! We are talking about serious business. This are the state of things. Doctrine: Total Corruption.
       Good Luck to Us All.

    4. It's often been stated that we make our own luck.

       As for making plans, well: 

       "The techno feudalism will be run by computers and surveillance via biometrics. After they have killed off most of the world's population, the requisite number left will live short, hard lives of servitude, reproduce enough to replace themselves and be slaves for the self-appointed so-called 'elite'. They will subsist on gmo crops that will kind of survive the deadened wastelands that SRM fallout will induce. This is the plan anyway. " 

       Hackers, the TRULY pissed off, solar flares, more nuclear melt-downs, power supply disruptions (technology's massive Achilles' Heel is the fact that IT RELIES ON A POWER SUPPLY)

       "The best-laid plans of mice and men…"  well, you know the rest ;-).

       "The New World Order will be brutal but short."  — Michael C. Ruppert

12. Does anyone know of a way to clean air from a window mounted AC unit, or at least reduce particulate and gas before it blows in my apartment? I was debating buying a Hepa fliter and taping over the intake outside but am not sure if it would harm the fan, or even be effective. I know the particles are too small to be filtered out by a Hepa but im grasping at straws here, as the spraying is getting worse, and the atmosphere more saturated with the silver death. Any advice on reducing the indoor levels of this " toxic spray of the day "would be appreciated, thanks and I wish you all good health. Keep up the good work guys.

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    1. Most window mounted ACs have a lever or slide that says vent. Close that so the AC circulates inside air only. Use the HEPA filter to keep the inside air as clean as possible  Closing the vent also increases efficiency . There are two fans, one for inside air to circulate and one for outside air to remove the heat from the unit.Many times on the same motor shaft. Two coils, like radiator coils inside and out. Inside air an outside air flow are separate with a small closable vent between, If you are still in doubt ask at a local Home store.

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        Thank you, I will try it out.

    3. Veritas, also check the air in your car. Many cars have a recirculate button, so you are not sucking in outside air. 

    4. @ Donna-AZ

       Thanks Donna i had not even thought about that. Sad to see Humanity has to even think of such things as toxic air, food, water, etc. Strange days when you have to worry about the air you breath, I am sure they will find a way to tax clean air next.

    5. Hello everybody.
       Veritas, try to vacuum everything in the house and car, AC filters, etc.. with a vacuum cleaner that has a water tank..  Every thin dust will remain in the water.

    6. I'm a real pro on this subject.  Your very best bet is to make absolutely certain that your dwelling has the tightest sealing windows (those would be casement windows) and exterior doors that seal tightly, either the interlocking metal weather strip kind (the tightest, but the fit has to be perfect) or other types, but fitted with the acoustic-style rubber door sweeps and door jamb weather stripping that fits tightly.  I have silicon rubber door jamb stripping that came from Home Depot and my front door sweep I found on amazon.com.  I have 16 Anlin vinyl casement windows throughout my house.  I had a contractor install special weatherstripping on the outside of the windows so that the stripping meets in the corners and touches at a 45 degree angle.  Cost about $200.

       Check your chimney.  Fireplaces and wood-burning inserts that lack air intake mechanisms that can be totally shut can be HUGE offenders of letting in ambient air.  Ditto wall furnaces– you've got a six-inch oval pipe-to-the-sky with those suckers– I sold one of my violas and had a central heating system installed, with floor vents.  If you have central forced-air heating with overhead heating vents, the crap is literally blowing on your head.  Be sure you change the furnace filter every 3-6 months. 

       Do you have skylights?  Check the seals on those.

       There are HVAC companies that specialize in home leak detection and will do a test on your house.  I used a hair dryer and an incense stick to test my doors and windows.  It's not a bad way to go but you need another person to help.

       I have an IQ Air Healthpro air filtering machine and it doesn't get rid of the crap that I can detect.  It is an $800 machine.  They will have to manufacture a kind of hyper-HEPA filter that gets the nanoparticulates out, right now I don't think anyone has anything like this yet.  You probably can get an AC filter that will help but you are going to have to change it the way you'd change a furnace filter, I'd think.

    7. Here's a filter option.

       http://www.achooallergy.com/furnace-filters/allertechr-furnace-air-conditioner-filters/

13. Here's a great documentary by the best documentarian out there. This shows what can happen if or when we can reach a critical mass. It also gives you a taste how the world wide propaganda machine works.
    http://johnpilger.com/videos/the-war-on-democracy

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    1. Wes – thanks for the video – of course Hugo Chavez "DIED'' of cancer and respiratory problems at the age of 58.

14. Geoengineering: carbon capture or corporate capture?
    Eric Hoffman & Kate Horner, Friends of the Earth U.S. / June 10, 2011
    Dangerous techno-fixes to the climate crisis are getting a lot of attention these days in Bonn.  Two blocks away from the climate talks, the Convention on Biological Diversity held a workshop today [2011] on geoengineering to discuss definitions, possible impacts and “regulatory gaps.”  When the CBD issued a de facto moratorium on geoengineering last year, it seemed like countries were being sensible in recognizing the extreme and possibly irreversible dangers of geoengineering, but meetings like the one held today suggest there is strong momentum to get geoengineering underway quickly.
    … The side effects of geoengineering interventions are unknown and untested but could easily have unintended consequences due to mechanical failure, human error, inadequate understanding of ecosystems, biodiversity and the Earth’s climate, unforeseen natural phenomena, irreversibility, or funding interruptions – to name of few.  It is impossible to test the effectiveness of geoengineering, since in order to have any noticeable impact on the climate or global temperatures, the geoengineering project must be deployed on a massive scale. “Experiments” or “field trials” equate to real-world deployment and would violate numerous international treaties as such. Geoengineering experiments would be conducted by the few wealthy nations and corporations who have the funds and technology at their disposal to do so. One country’s experiments could have devastating effects on other countries and the global climate system. These technologies are already being patented [2011] and would be owned by these same actors who would also benefit financially by their deployment.
    http://www.foe.org/news/archives/2011-06-geoengineering-carbon-capture-or-corporate-capture

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15. What the FBI Was Doing Instead of Catching the Orlando Shooter
    June 13, 2016   |   ANTIMEDIA
    … Out of the 508 terrorism-related cases since September 11, 2001, more often than not, the FBI has had a hand in creating the very terrorist threat they have claimed to be protecting us from. Two-hundred and forty-three of these cases involved an FBI informant. In many instances, the targets of these operations, who are later accused of plotting attacks, are not only almost always Muslim, but they are also often suffering from a mental illness, such as schizophrenia. Moreover, the targets are also vulnerable and easily susceptible to bribery as they are desperate for money – so desperate, it seems, they will help put their own friends behind bars. … Informants are also vulnerable targets of these FBI operations and usually, do the “dirty work” of the FBI in exchange for softer punishment in their own previous prosecutions. In addition, they often do it for money — or a combination of the two. An FBI informant can earn approximately $100,000 or more for a single case. … If these people need help, why can’t the authorities provide it to them? Why prey on them, further radicalize them, and provide them with supplies and weaponry that put the wider public at risk — only to lock them away for decades for a crime they would not have otherwise committed? The answer is simple. In the words of former FBI Assistant Director, Thomas Fuentes:
    “If you’re submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for an intelligence agency, you’re not going to submit the proposal that ‘We won the war on terror and everything’s great,’ cuz the first thing that’s gonna happen is your budget’s gonna be cut in half. You know, it’s my opposite of Jesse Jackson’s ‘Keep Hope Alive’—it’s ‘Keep Fear Alive.’ Keep it alive.”
    http://theantimedia.org/orlando-shooting-fbi-terror-plots/

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    1. Like Woody Allen's explanation of the theory of relationships in his movie Annie Hall, just like a shark, government agencies have to keep moving (growing) or they die. 

       Today on KQED's forum the topic in the first hour was about police corruption, specifically prostitution and human trafficking and the Oakland (CA, U.S.A.) Police Dept.  Numerous police officers had procured the services of a young (underage) "sex worker" (her term for herself).  Multiple officers were involved with her, sometimes by mutual consent, she explained, in order to gain their protection.  The girl's mother was a police dispatcher who worked in the department: http://ww2.kqed.org/forum/2016/06/10/whats-next-for-the-oakland-police-department/

       With all the civil wrongs and unrest, police and their role has come sharply into focus under the spotlight of social scrutiny.  In recent years there has been a rash of cases of police using deadly force that have been loudly decried, much louder than in the past when this would occur.  Undoubtedly there is police brutality but I can't help but wonder if there isn't some kind of larger pattern of clandestine attempt to put local law enforcement under the thumb of federal agencies and this is the dirty way the job's going to get done.  A number of federal agents work in Oakland P.D. and the late Mike Ruppert, former L.A.P.D. detective, said in his book Crossing the Rubicon that every local police agency always has a CIA presence within it.  Should we really be so surprised?

    2. Dennie, hilarious!  — "Like Woody Allen's explanation of the theory of relationships in his movie Annie Hall, just like a shark, government agencies have to keep moving (growing) or they die." They need the eggs! Thank you for making me laugh this morning.

16. The 64 Trillion dollar question.

    Who is MotherEarth/Ocean's to protect and serve police force ?

    Answer: We are, should we so choose to act. Please help fund the PilotsForTruth who are willing to be the CaliforniaSkyway Patrol –

    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/arcc-project.html – 

    hard evidence along with the mere footage [which is circumstantial] will not hurt our cause as it makes its way to the courts.

    "Those who have the privilege to know have the duty to act" ~quoting some smart dude.

    Thank you, Dane for all you do.

    MotherEarth/Ocean needs a good lawyer as well. Now's the time.

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    1. Thanks for this info Damon Duval. As I  see it, it is absolutely necessary that PilotsForTruth become a major voice in this cause. Who better to expose the abomination in our skies!

       They are asking for very manageable funding. Help if you can.

17. Snow yesterday in the high country of southwest Colorado.  39 degrees this morning, we will be in the 90's in a few days.  Weather ping-pong.  The all-out spraying continues.  So many humans continue in their 3-D lives; that of distraction, delusion and denial.  I keep working at waking up a few at a time. I must admit, I'm not very efficient at it.  My tech skills are lacking.  Thanks Dane for your efficient and relentless efforts in this fight.  Greg O.

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18. As we are finding out, lots of these nonprofit "environmental" and/or " humanitarian" groups are fronts for the elite to forward their agenda. Lobby groups in this disguise rake in lots of well meaning dollars, yet do very little to change the direction of the plane t's spiral to destruction.All Controlled opposition in my opinion. 

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19. Yes, indeed, we're certainly in a world where the "rulers" have hijacked reality itself (at least they think so), a place where "white" is really black, "no" means "yes," and "stop" means GO.  

    Here's one more to add to the bunch:  "Greenpeace" = Brown War!

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20. Astonished and now deeply angry at the impunity of those responsible for the spraying.Yesterday, along with ~100,000 others trying to raise funds to help 'freeze motor neuron disease' (MND)before the traditional Queen's Birthday Aussie Rules Football Match.

    Good hearted people of Melbourne and surrounds gathered behind retired footy 'great' Neale Daniher who is now suffering from MND and is the face of the campaign to find a cure for this terrible affliction.

    MND is currently incurable and is poorly understood but contemporary research suggests 'environmental' factors are a contributor- something I agree with on many levels. Like Alzheimers, MND incidence rates are increasing rapidly- likely related to SRM as the particulates descend where they can affect all life forms with their toxic compounds.

    As the 11 celebrities prepared to take the slide into a small pool sized bath of ice to show their commitment to this cause via the sponsored fundraising,, above, a lone tanker appeared almost directly overhead the Melbourne Cricket Ground ( the iconic stadium for the people) releasing it's silvery thread which over the next three (3) hours slowly expanded to diffuse the otherwise bright Aussie autumn sunlight; 'it' was still visible as the game ended.

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    1. Hello Friends..

       Aluminum is connected with Alzheimer's disease..

       The disease that causes forgetfulness…

21. I called Greenpeace and the Sierra Club in my area about chemtrails. They had no idea what I was talking about – certain proof they are on the payroll. We just have to reconcile ourselves to that reality – for what the heck else could be going on? Ya'll see the trails. Just single out Greenpeace and make a mockery out of it with chemtrail memes and derisive video. If you teach Greenpeace a lesson, you will teach everybody a lesson. It's the same strategy our enemies use all the time.

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22. I can't help but hear the Green Peace talking head promote a global government every time he spoke. Indicating to me another facet of fear to use in promoting UN's agenda.

    As a side note I was reading my insurance coverage,and found a large notice that there is no coverage for biological warfare to me or belongings.  There are more a few other listings for loss of coverage,also including war,and civil unrest. It may be of interest to some of you to look up your coverage. I have a hard time understanding why this was put into my coverage,if it was not thought to be,or become an issue.

    It is always an inspiration to me to know there are so many that are facing this ugly truth.

    Thank you for every moment you put to this leading serious fight Dane,much respect to you.

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    1. Jeff, Whoa!  A large notice on your insurance saying no coverage for biological warfare to you and your belongings??!!  Indeed, why there?  Unless…..this bummer just never ends does it?  I wish you'd call them and ask WTF?!!!  I can kinda see why they'd say none for war or civil unrest, though the civil unrest seems as if should be covered.  It happens, after all.  Has done forever?  War is always lurking but seeming far from us and if us, I can see why they'd bail on that.  But ask them what the hell is up with the biological issue-why there?  Play dumb.  Act confused, ask what they are alluding to?  Myself, too poor for anything like coverage so I wouldn't know.  But if I were you, I'd be on the phone immediately, and I would not give up.

23. I contribute to Green Peace, boy are they going to get a chewing.

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    1. I actually called them several years ago and asked them about geoengineering. They said they didn't know about it and had no interest in it. I pulled my monthly donations right then. 

24. Everytime I see geo-engineering in photographs, etc. I always contact the publication and complain, complain, complain. I always tell them that I don't associate with groups that don't have a clue or WS trolls on their board and I WILL NOT buy from their advertisers nor supporters. I got the shock of my life when I got an email from Conservation International with a photo with ge line in it and told them "you are helping in this appearing to be "normal"", not appreciated. I got a reply back and pretty much they shrugged their shoulders, they don't see anything wrong with it. There's no real science against it, or something like that. (They may think that it is a good thing. That is easy to do thinking it protects the animals and ecosystems from heat, drought and fire.) I wrote back and said "what happens when the oil runs out and all that pollution has been put in the atmosphere between now and then makes it ten fold worse?" How much sense does that take, a six year old can figure that out."And then breathing in nano aluminum…when did that become good for you? The last I heard it shouldn't be in anti-perspirant and soda cans should be coated. What are you thinking?" You may want to put CI under the microscope too. I also do this for gmo items too. On the plus side I saw a picture of half was dry and dead ground and sun filled sky, the other was green grass and blue sky with some lovely cloud lines. This photo/picture is used a lot. I complained to Common Ground magazine. I did not get a response but have seen that photo since minus the young woman in the middle and sans the line "clouds". At least they got the message. Sierra Clubs "relaxation" emails had them too and polluted or blue orange photo of junk on beach (disgruntled employee?)and they too got the riot act. Either they do not do it anymore or I am off the list. 🙂 We simply can't have our own working against us. Besides to the unknowing, it looks ok, normal, acceptable. Gripe at every opportunity; good for the blood pressure! 🙂 Whole Foods is under the microscope for overuse of plastic.

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25. The interesting fact about Greenpeace representative in this discussion is, that he is TALKING EXACTLY THE KNOWN, SCIENTIFIC (PRESUMABLE) KNOWN CONSEQUENCES OF EVERY ASPECT OF GEOENGINEERING, HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE KNOWN CONSEQUENCES TO OUR HEALTH, TO THE PLANET, BUT in the same time, he says 'these consequences are all probable', INSTEAD of saying, THESE CONSEQUENCES ARE ALL REAL RIGHT NOW!!!!! Meaning, he+others='they', know EXACTLY what is going on, they know exactly about every single aspect of what we are all dealing with right now, and yet, they continue with an OFFICIAL  LIE, like a drugdealer, claiming his actions are justified, due to necessity of the helpless edicts.. I THINK, THEIR POINT IS TO PLAY ON OUR TIME, ON SOMETHING WHAT IS KNOWN TO THEM NOW, and what needs to develop for them to 'act'. It is almost like preparing for a war, while putting more fuel into the fire, in order to bring their 'extinguisher' in the right moment to 'free us' from consequences…
    There is one simple analogy, between GMO's and geoengineering, they were introduced DELIBERATELY,  LONG TIME AGO, IN ORDER TO DO HARM, there is NO OTHER EXPLANATION. AND like Monsanto awaits its FINALE, so will all those, who are responsible for these 'programs'=GENOCIDE+ECOCIDE. THEY WILL NEVER PAY OFF THE ALREADY LOST LIVES, THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, THOUGH.

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26. Are all of these dimwit environmentalists so ego power driven they don't realize they're going down with the ship?!

    the epitome of psychopathic insanity!

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27. Isn't it a kick to hear Mr. Smartipants enumerate all the problems of geoengineering as if it really isn't happening, when, dammit, geoengeering IS occurring and he is just observing the world as it spins out of control. And what a brilliant sage he is to tell us the problems we will have in a geo-future when we have them right now. Is he blind? 

     

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    1. Amen, Frank.

28. While I appreciate Jill B's interview,  I wanted to scream when she said          " How would people know if this was going on?" Really? How about  observation and experience of one's own environment? She is highly invested in remaining on the fence and in the questioning mode, I would say.

    About Greenpeace, why would we be surprised about their sitting on the sidelines and denying science? They were all but invisible in the fight to save the whales from being harvested for supposed science and stoppling the mass slaughter of sharks and now rays for their fins. These deniers that are the mouthpieces for these faux pro environmental organizations need to be called out at every opportunity. Thanks to Dane and George B. The science denial that has been going on for decades and was most pronounced at the turn of this century was absolutely necessary for us to get to the place where we one find ourselves concerning facts and science. People are just calling things with no proof and in fact are getting away with denying reality.  DO NOT believe your eyes, they say. Don't believe the metal taste in your mouth. Don't acknowledge the loss of wildlife or the death of trees and plants. INSANITY !!!!  We are being ruled by "say-so" on every level and at every opportunity. Let's email gogreenradio@gmail.com and tell Jill what we think about her fact finding for the interview. And let's hope everyone is done with the likes of an organization that dares to have Peace and Green in their name but can't tell that there is a war going on against our planet. Mr. Castillo should be ashamed but those with no conscience know no shame.

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    1. BTW,  Last night, I typed 'Santillo' three times and it still ended up reading 'Castillo'. Busy GreenPeace site monitors and trolls, I guess.

29. Good God Dane, this is fantastic!  What a list!!  Explains much!  So grateful!  You never stop blowing my mind!  So glad you are so stubborn!

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30. Well, where do I start? Jill Buck clearly has a commitment to keeping her show squeaky clean and without on-air controversy. After Dane laid it all on the line regarding verifiable deployment of large scale geoengineering, Jill would then go straight to Dr. Santillo with a tangential question, NOT DIRECTLY SEEKING A REPLY TO DANE'S CONTENTIONS. Dr. Santillo very skillfully dodged any concession that geoengineering is ongoing on a massive scale except near the end of the show when he stated: " I wouldn't disagree at all that we need to see an end to these kinds of large scale experiments because they're not experiments when you start to go to that kind of level, it is deployment. It's going to have an impact on the systems that are under study perhaps in ways that are unpredictable and maybe irreversible." Gee, Doc, ya think??? I take this comment to mean that YES, he knows goddamn well that Dane and George cannot be bullshitted. Santillo has no leg to stand on, yet how incredible is it that Jill Buck and the illustrious Dr. Santillo of powerful GREENPEACE, are content to sit comfortably around a microphone and talk glibly and without passion about geoengineering governance and proposals??? This is astounding!!! And yet we see this kind of thing all the time. Quite frankly, I'm sick of this kind of shit from people who goddamn well know better. The time to "take off the gloves" in these kinds of discussions happened a long time ago. Yet, having said all of that, I think the fact that these three individuals all came together on one radio show implies that we are plodding along in the right direction, my complaints notwithstanding.

     

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    1. Thanks, Marc, for this insightful analysis. And Dane did an excellent job of cutting right down to the bone!

31. My God, Dane, Mr.Barnes you have the patience of saints, The first time he said proposal I wanted to grab him by the gruff (like the proverbial dog chewing on your couch) and say NO! NO! NO! NO!

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32. I believe that there is a basic attempt – – most likely initiated by the carbon industry – – to confuse and blurr the picture.
    Have these contributing, worldwide, agencies ever responded to the – – scientifically well founded, charge that SRM violates principles of thermodynamics??? AND, following through on principles of thermodynamics violation, that THIS GEOENGINEERING VOODOO IS A KEY CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO THE – now complete – ARCTIC ICE LOSSES? – – – – followed by thawing of permafrost areas, and releasing (in the first year alone) 50 million tons of global warming accelerating methane into the atmosphere.
    But this pseudo-scientific lunacy doesn't stop here. With Aluminum in the high altitude sprays, we have doubled (from 12,000 to 24,000) the number of wildfires, and are (as predicted by forestry departments around the world) killing trees.
    For more details, see our – IAAM, Dr. Kugler – news releases:
    The extreme urgency to expose the covert Geoengineering "YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO KNOW"atrocities.
    http://www.worldhealth.net/forum/thread/102494/the-extreme-urgency-to-expose-the-covert/?page=1#post-102494
    AND
    BRAINLESS! Geoengineering – Chemtrails/SRM/WeatherModification – THE downhill Global Warming Spiral. 
    http://www.expertclick.com/NRWire/Releasedetails.aspx?id=78501

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    1. Thank you, Dr. Kugler, for your clear voice that never takes a an ambiguous tone.
       The dynamics of cloud cover are obvious after living in Alaska for over three decades.  In Winter, clear nights are the coldest, and it takes the cloud cover to warm the temperatures up enough to snow (around 30 F).  The new so-called Arctic Haze is prevalent now, looking ever like thick industrial pollution on the horizon.  We didn't see this haze in 2006, when we left Alaska, but it was shocking to see in early in 2009 when we came back. 
       I wish there were a way to post a photo I saved from our local paper.  It shows aerosol trails over a black glacier in Denali Park.  Funny (not) how no one notices or comments.  I wonder if they'd notice if the sky was actually on fire!
       Breaking through the "normalcy bias" is our Herculean task.  Everyone here has my deep appreciation and thanks.  We have an excellent understanding and rapport in this world of bias manipulation and engineered division.  It feels very good to be here among honorable friends.

33. I used to sign many petitions by greenpeace , not anymore , because they refuse to acknowledge the blatant global geoengineering programs , as clearly indicated in the interview in this article , top greenpeace scientist refuses to admit to climate engineering despite being confronted with mentions of many irrefutable evidence that anyone can verify for themselves with a bit of researching , not until they join this epic fight for the survival of some ability for this planet to support life will I support them again…..

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    1. Michael, I ceased giving money to Greenpeace years ago when I became aware of their avoidance of geoengineering as a legitimate issue worth fighting against. Correspondence with Greenpeace produced only platitudes and diversions. Though I gave annually to Greenpeace for at least 15 years, I cannot justify supporting them anymore even if some of their work accomplishes real good in this world. Maybe I'm being too much of a hard-ass but when you consider the CLOUT Greenpeace potentially has on the stage of world awareness, it is unconscionable for them to ignore geoengineering altogether, such as they do. 

    2. Marc:  Greenpeace relies on individual contributions, or did in its formative beginning.  Likely, their majority "take" now is from government and foundation grants.  Less volunteer staff, more salaried employees, more coopted and willing to rationalize their betrayal of their original mandate.  They have sold their "soul" for the proverbial pieces of silver.

    3. Hi Marc, I too gave to Greenpeace, if only 20$ a year, as I am so very poor, yet greatly admire their work.  In fact, a friend of mine, close friend, joined them maybe 40 decades ago.  I used to give a wee bit like this to a few organizations I felt worthy of.  Kind of my version of paying taxes to defend nature.  I quit very long ago.  I have signed some things and perhaps I'll stop doing that.  But I think BaneB nailed it.  If you call any of these now, D.C. answers.  They have been brought under the government's umbrella.  No doubt the extra money they must have gained one way or the other by doing so, was tempting.  And one can blame them for that.  But how did the government manage this feat?  You just know there was a plan behind this, that they saw what was gonna happen.  I doubt that Greenpeace did.  Again with the old saw: You don't dance with the devil, the devil dances with you!  Perhaps we could put together a hopefully long list of all of us prior contributors, and say why we stopped, that we would continue to support them but for this denial of theirs and lack of action resulting in us feeling they've been bought by the very people doing such harm.  Sure, many of us have spoken to them and said so.  But perhaps a long list of "they-can-check-on-this" past contributors would have a bigger effect?  Not sure how to do that.  Or if the numbers of and amounts would sway them.  But it would make a larger statement than individual callers trickling in, or not. Bet they don't keep a list of those yet have me on their list more than a decade after I quit.  So?  What do you think?  Worth the effort?  Or, too little too late?

34. Santillo must know that 'deployment' has long been in place. But he's been vibrated into line by the establishment and is subsequently too cautious to stick his neck out and sound the alert. The complicity of Greenpeace in the SRMGI is massively disappointing. But the Go Green radio piece was good and is worth sharing widely.

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35. The Bilderberger, Taschenbergpalais hotel in Dresden, Germany, is in full swing. More evils to add to list of evils.

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36. Solution; pull all support for those that stand for destruction and let this information go viral so that word gets out on these. For shame you guys and EDF and Green Peace you guys may have been on the right side once upon a time but you got sold out or infiltrated to bring you to a state of NOTHING. My support goes and my focus & energy goes to organizations that care for people and our home: planet Earth. I"m not wasting my time with a no-body organization.

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    1. How do I share this to video Facebook

37. Looks like world war three to me . WHICH IS WORSE , OUR NEW PRESIDENT ++ HITLERARY ++ TRUMP ++ OR CLIMATE CHANGE ==== EVIL ++ EVIL ++ & EVIL == WORLD WAR THREE .

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38. This from my next weekly email:

    1.  Please note the verb tense and words used in these quotes from the linked article (You don't have to understand it – just read it and you will start to wake up to what is going on in the skies above us). 

    "Proposals to geoengineer Earth's climate by cirrus cloud thinning (CCT) potentially offer advantages over solar radiation management schemes: amplified cooling of the Arctic and smaller perturbations to global mean precipitation in particular." 

    "Global mean temperature decreased linearly with ERF (Effective Radiative Forcing) while Arctic temperature reductions were amplified compared with the  global  mean change. The change in global mean precipitation involved a rapid adjustment, …"

    "Global mean precipitation and evaporation increased strongly in the first year of CCT. Intensification of the hydrological cycle was promoted by:…"

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2015JD024304/full

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    1. I am now in Fiji, South Pacific visiting friends of my former South Pacific visits. From California I went te capital city, Suva and found local information from a senior village lady, who informed me, some in Fiji believe the US government, ie Harrp caused the severe Cyclone Winston here , Feb 21, 2016.   Winds were clocked at up to 300km/h with  Tsunamis and Earthquakes.  Most of the locals and NZ government said we can go up 150km/h winds.  At 300 km/h we are in deep trouble.   I too believe and I know the HAARP South Pacific buoy relay station intensified the Cyclone Winston effects.   That HAARP and chem trail spraying is a Monster now.   Here in Fiji, I so enjoy the NATURAL  clouds everday. No chem trail at all………..   Note to Dane…The HAARP  individual do not know what the effects of that Monster program is… With you lawsuit, it will at least hav people take notice, or the Skies in North America , Europe will be complete chemical and un fit for health….   Jim..in Fiji Islands  

    2. Yes, Andrew, you make an excellent point.  Language and tenses employed really do matter.  They are telling lies and must employ the ongoing pretense of the programs being theoretical and for the future.  And even the most practiced liars will get their stories and tenses wrong!

       It's a very good thing we're here to push back on the lies and the liars.

39. This is a collection of articles around the work of Sister Dr. Rosalie Bertell (April 4, 1929 – June 14, 2012) was an American scientist, author, environmental activist, epidemiologist, and sister of the Grey Nuns of the Sacred Heart, best known for her work in the field of ionizing radiation. Thanks to Bella_Fantasia!
    GEO-TERRORISM: THE WEAPONIZATION OF ‘INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENTS’, ‘NATURAL DISASTERS’ AND ‘ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING’ / Prof. Claudia von Werlhof and Dr. Rosalie Bertell:  “…the intention is to, first, ‘kill’ the Earth as a planet and alleged chaos together with its order, or, in the language of alchemy: to ‘mortify’ it. Finally, in a ‘Magnum Opus’ it is to be re-created as a supposedly more valuable, fantastic machine-like system that can be freely manipulated, employed, switched on and off.”
    “Planet Earth the Latest weapon of War”, reveals the unbelievable truth in the new generation of super-weapons. – by Rosalie Bertell / The Women’s Press London, 2000
    ELF pulsed into the earth: Dr Bertell says that both HAARP and installations in Russia – on which America has, remarkably, collaborated – can also create pulsed, extremely low frequency (ELF) waves which have been directed deep into the earth itself, potentially disrupting delicately poised tectonic plates of the earth’s crust, such as those of California’s San Andreas fault. As Dr Bertell explains, everything is connected, ‘everything in our universe is in dynamic equilibrium and this interference (from HAARP) may destabilize a system that has established and maintained its own cycle for millions of years’ – protecting life on earth. Given the little understood interplay between tectonic plates, volcano’s and the earth’s molten core, to call this playing with fire would be an absurd understatement. Nor, it seems are these the only military installations threatening earth’s viability. Dr Bertell tells us that HAARP is just one of a growing chain of astonishingly powerful, and potentially interactive, military installations, using varied types of electromagnetic fields or wavelengths, each with a different ability to affect the earth or its atmosphere.
    http://metaphysicalmusing.com/blog/2016/06/13/geo-terrorism-the-weaponization-of-industrial-accidents-natural-disasters-and-environmental-engineering/

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    1. I have mentioned Dr. Bertell again and again.  And I first heard of her here, in a sidebar on this site.  I've read her books and so wish I'd known this remarkable woman.  I believe her second book, Earth, the Latest Weapon of War is a must read.  I always keep an extra for loaning.  This woman never wastes one word.  Her work is all documented, she was so highly regarded, considered the world's leading expert in nuclear everything.   Her first book: No Immediate Danger, Prognosis for a Radioactive Earth is thick and difficult as each sentence makes me cry, may take forever to finish.  There are a few video clips of her on the web.  Someone recently said she said nothing about spraying.  Au contraire!  There is a video clip of her in Paris pointing to them overhead.  I first read her second book about 5 or 6 years ago.  So glad it is finally trickling down  Indispensable, like a text book of great value.  She notes the history of nukes, nuke experiments and is how I found out about, she says, blowing two nukes high over the Pacific and close together to see if they could lift the ionosphere, they did, plus blew big hole in ozone layer and created two new magnetic belts in the Van Allen's.  And that was considered a success!?  I believe that was in the mid 80s?  Right?  Wrong?
       I did not know about Claudia Von Werlhof.  I'm curious about her and whether or not she actually worked with Rosalie.  Doesn't sound like it, but I don't know. This little bit said about her and Rosalie does not sound like Rosalie.  By the way, I was studying Yamakawa's suggestion regarding mediating, re-mediating nuclear waste.  Ran into something sounding familiar, may have come from you.  About sea water, salt water and gold and ionization.  Lead me to wondering if any of the efforts in the skies, as plasma was mentioned-could have to do with trying to negate radioactivity in the environment?  Do you know?  I would expect Dane to say no nothing benevolent.
       And there is a new volcano off the coast of New Zealand.  If his theory is true and I do suspect it is or very close, then that changes prior thinking about tectonic plates and volcanoes and Earth's own heat sources.  I do not find that that is in conflict with geoengineering, does not take away from geoengineering, but well may give clues to explain what is really going on and what the government really is up to.  Dr. Herndon is certainly going All Out against geo-engineering!  And against the establishment.  His explanations about pre-printing and arXiv.org and 'the dark side of science" are illuminating.We might be able to connect this magnificent list of Dane's with the Universities he names, foremost is Cornell.
       Ice Cube/Box?, built to try to capture neutrinos from before our solar system, succeeded in 2013.  To build it, they bored through Antarctica with hot water drills down to bedrock in 2010.  Bored many, many holes to use like telescopes in a way to capture these suspected but previously elusive little things, from truly ancient history–pre our solar system!!  Instinct tell me this can't have been a good idea.  Any thoughts about that?  I remember you recently remarking on an effort hoping to view these ancient- understatement- neutrinos.  Thank You Susan, and Bella and of course, Dennie has been aware of Dr. Sr. Bertell and has referred to her.  What a woman of extreme focus and awareness, not to mention activity!   

    2. Susan thank you for posting this, she's amazing.

    3. Too bad the A$$holes-In-Charge picked the WRONG planet. 

       Dr. Sr. Rosalie Bertell was waaaay ahead of her time. 

40. Shocking how many have been brainwashed into Solar Radiation Management. Orwellian scary indeed! My guess is that no one would be hired anymore who didn't sign a required questionnaire that they were in agreement. This is a massive business expanding worldwide — and thus ever more terrifying. Science has become an effective tool for our current era Inquisition. Those who don't believe are silenced, marginalized, and impoverished. And yet I keep reading in these plasma physics textbooks that so much of 'what they think they know' is based solely on computer simulations that are then formulated into equations and algos. They accept 'simulations' as reality. No wonder life has become disconnected from and out of harmony with the Natural Order.

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    1. Well put, Susan !  These so-called 'environmentalists' are totally brainwashed… and of course, they have to protect their career and salary… in the end it is a total sell out and abdication to the beast that is the system of monetary control.  It will be on the head of every individual who has participated in this assault on the planet.  "Just following orders" was rejected as a defense at the Nuremburg Trials… the same applies to 'just doing my job and protecting my paycheck and pension" is the same thing. Hey, all you so-called environmentalists, thanks for helping destroy Life on the planet !  What blind hypocisy !!

    2. Susan, I sent Dane today my Nature online mag offering for this week as it had a few pertinent articles, well, two.  The first one of interest to me was 1,576 scientists complaining that their work is not repeatable-a standard of science!  Yet no one seems to care, but they do and they are raising some ruckus about it.  What do you know, science actually trying to help this problem by speaking out!  If you do an experiment and someone snaps it up before you double check it, well…..And when a problem is found with it, that someone wanted, they don't listen or respond.  This is a basic tenet of science and the main reason I claim we never landed on the moon!  Because! it has not been repeated!  Regardless of the difficulties involved, that is the proof of science.  These brave 1,576 are saying so, loud and clear!  So the modeler sees someone's work, maybe on arXiv.org, maybe not, snatches it and runs with it, while the scientist behind it, finding the flaws is silenced!  Gee!

       The other article that was of great interest to me, may also interest Dane, and certainly Yamakawa.  About microbes and it is an incredible wonder.  Gives hope, describes the Earth in their beginning and seas of 100 degrees, with no oxygen.  These micro wonders created our oxygen for us and developed the world as we know it, yet most everything about them remains unknown.  These could indeed lead to stuff like undoing radiation!  Freaks of nature they are, highly evolved, much more than us.  Hope this Russian immigrant who is nearly the only one seriously studying these continues to find more and more help from them.  Absolutely fascinating as is the man, Epstein.

    3. Hello Rachel!

       Yes, the science communities tend to impose hypothesized theories as concrete dogmas, and do not emphasize experiments as before (early 1900s), so it is like being in a cult. Respect the elders and forefathers as undeniable oracles. But serious scientists doing experiments themselves know the real, since the result is there in front of their eyes, if they accept that facts. The more subtle the experiment, the more difficult to accept the reproductiveness. Especially biological, organic living-thing experiments, they have to be skilled like a meister to conduct effective reproducible experiments, to be used to certain empirical steps, following precise processes and techniques. In the frontier fields, there are some sort of apprenticeship to absorb from the gurus, the certain secret techniques not written in the papers.

       And microbes, yes, some groups that had postive results at neutralizing Fukushima pollution were those who used the microbe fermentation technology. The group can work out positive results, but their way requires craftsmanship, not applicable to laymen. It is like brewing sake (Japanese rice wine), balancing between diverse type of microbe groups.

       I have seen other Japanese groups that are working on hyperthermophilic bacteria that thrives above 1000 degrees Celsius! Found from submarine volcano. They could live in normal temperatures, but won’t die even if you burn them by fire, so it is currently difficult to industrialize. To my understanding, it seems to require “love and respect to the microorganisms” more than craftsmanship!!! The persons who tried to steal the bacteria from the group without respect, could not succeed.
        

    4. The definition of virtual:  "not in fact."  Which is to suggest their computer models are somewhere between The Outer Limit and Twilight Zone.

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