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1. Thank you Dane et al, for providing so much insight & information on what feels like a really bad scifi dream.

   Here in North east conn. we are allocated @ 2 , 1/2 days, usually the weekend, of mostly blue skies. The overwhleming, dense, still grey that has pervaded the atmosphere kicked in @ 1 year ago.

   We had  installed pv array @ 1 year prior & have lost +/- 30%  electirc production. It is uncanny how the day can start out sunny & @ 10AM a cloud will roll in & sit over the sun 'til @ 4, just robbing peak production hours. Many nites the chem clouds will clear, til the next day. We see all the same spraying formations discussed here. Also enormous decrease in all insects & amphibians. Haven't noticed the trees, etc being affected, yet..

   It is still incomprehensible to me that the psychopaths running this game DON"T understand they will go down w/ the ship too.

   I have been talking to as many people as I can @ the issue & directing them to this site. Also made myself a bumper sticker "geoengineering.com" , might consider marketing that.

   Also, is there anything that can zapp the chem clouds &/or disrupt the microwaves?

   Happy holiday's to all anyway.

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2. I Have nothing new of note to say or report except for my gratitude for the tremendously important Earth-Alert news and its essential importance fot us all who live on this beautiful planest. Most of the people I address this immense crisis steadfastly consider it as transitory, or self correcting,or even amusing fiction! This type of responses only underline the gravity of the situation and the human-race collusion in advancing and even causing it. I hope that people like you will help to raise public consciousness enough to create a a significant shift of perception needed for a viable-for- all- outcome.  Thank you again and let us try to bring more life-honoring awareness. 

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3.  I have to say, not every single bird or bug is dead.  Oddly, two days ago I saw two bees!?  In December in the cold here.  We have flies of all sorts, and ants, and moths-though not so many.  In the Delta area, I got to see great masses of migrating birds.  Daughter says fewer than before, but seemed astounding.  She also sees harbor seals and even sea lions! 80 miles inland.  Was swimming when a big sea lion popped up next to her, freaking her out!  I don't know how uncommon that is?  All I am trying to say, is that it is not game over, Yet!

   For some time now, dawn shows up in the west here by the Bay.  I go to look east and nothing.  West looks like dawn.  Today, dawn was pink all over, in a full circle.  That kind of thing really messes with my mind.  No matter how many times we wash off my yellow yard umbrella, black stuff is on it.  Seemed reasonable when all was burning, but now?  Birds won't drink rainwater.

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   1. We still have quite a bit of wildlife in San Rafael, CA U.S.A.:  Deer (too many!), coyotes (ditto), gray foxes, rats, moles, voles, mice, racoons, skunks, possums, gophers (too many of them, maybe they have a "thing" going with the coyotes?); a mountain lion family living very quietly somewhere in the tangles of the Bret Harte subdivision (they know great real estate when they see it– great bay views from up there); red tail and other hawks, turkeys, turkey vultures, many many crows, ravens, scrub jays, towhees, robins, junkoes, sparrows, wrens, hummingbirds, gold and other finches and other little songbirds (many songbirds in the Rafael Meadows subdivision); blue herons, white egrets, and I saw a sea otter on the lawn at my student's house right on the lagoon in Larkspur.  Of course, there probably are not as many as there used to be.  The fish population is going, you can't fish out of the bay any more, the fish are pretty much gone, and you wouldn't want to eat any that were caught out there anyway.  That's awful. Probably explains why the otter was coming up, skulking around on lawns and scavenging for scraps from picnics, dropped sandwiches, etc. 

      The animals were all coming around much more frequently even during daylight this past summer when there was no water and lots of heat.  I'm really worried about this, and them.  My cousin in CO puts out buckets of water for the deer and coyotes.  In Marin County, CA we don't know whether we should be providing water when it's really really hot.  I have seen deer panting in the shade on days when it's in the high 90s and higher.  It puts me in a place emotionally between terror, rage and despair, mainly with loads of grief now, to think about this and I do not know how a "loving" God could allow us to let this happen except to say that He does believe in free will no matter that we don't really know what that truly looks like, and we are God's hands here on Earth, it is too dense for His light to get here much without directly asking for it, then we all must move to do His work when we "get it."  He doesn't have a patent on Magic Fairy Dust that He'll sprinkle on us all and make our living nightmare come to and end– we have to do that, the hard way.  Let's roll up our sleeves and get going!!

   2. Dennie, the scary thing is sometimes I think God has judged all of us collectively and this is our end.

4. For those of you, like me, who are suffering various symptoms from the chemtrails, do watch this video. Very informative. Start @06:30 (passed the jokes).
   Morgellons & Nano’s / AntiNano Device Sept. 2015
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAOfZ5PddKc

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5. Regarding the "Agreement to focus on keeping global temperatures below agreed upon limit of 2 degree Celsius" …in Sacramento, California yesterday it was 28 degrees at 7:00 a.m. and today it was 42 degrees at same time.  It's nice and cold.  Why then are they laying down the atmospheric spray trails?  I could see 9 aircraft spraying while driving to work this morning–laying down the typical cris/cross patterns.  If this is truly and only about reducing temperatures–then it doesn't make sense.  Why waste billions of dollars spraying overhead skies of areas with cold ambient temperatures???  There is something else they are up to but they keep using the "must cool the planet" speech.

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   1. Hello Patricia, in regard to temperatures, one must take a global perspective. Over 3500 high temperature records have been shattered in the lower 48 states since the start of December alone. The east coast is now burning up as the west coast was in recent years. Again, one musat keep a global perspecive. Every engineered cool-down carried out by the climate engineers worsens the overall warming of the planet, but that is clearly of no concern to a power structure that is clinically insane. We must expose and stop climate engineering, there is no other way forward.

   2. Patricia, hello.  They spray for reasons other than the weather.  For radar for one.  For experiments too.  They color the "clouds" to track the various chemicals they are using.  Like a signature they can follow.  Most of this comes down to experimenting, then validating or not the experiment.  Idiots all.

   3. Hi Patricia, Here in the UK at the moment the trees are showing blossom. Blossom in early December in the UK is something I have not seen before. The tree's are telling us what is wrong. For sure the planet is warming.

6. Hello Dane – and ALL,
   It is said that the adult attention span is about 17 seconds, and if you fail to cause a personal 'identity' within this time period – you loose the listener.  The 2 other guests, while making some sense, appear to be oblivious to the big picture – I lost identity with them several times, and had to either stop and replay, or fast forward to your interview.
   I never had that problem with your interview Dane.  I listened, and understood each and every word without replay or fast forward.
   One of the guests may be right about the ability of people to observe catastrophe, and yet deny it at the same time – I call it the "inevitability law".  It is much like entropy for the human race.  Like the practicing alcoholic (our addiction to fossil fuels), denial of it's destructiveness is death to humanity.
   There has to be more than just money and power behind GeoEngineering – how can those who make this happen, fail to see their own destruction?
   Is it a "grab all you can now, for this is the last dance" attitude? Have they given up hope for planet Earth after seeing that the damage caused by GeoEngineering is irreversible? 
   We won't know it is irreversible unless we STOP GeoEngineering.
   That is our ONLY choice.
   Thanks Dane for your hard work – you've never lost my attention.
   Ray
   What do they know, that I don't?

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   1. Ray, clearly what they know they don't want us to know and that is scary.  I too think there is something lurking behind their curtain and it makes me nervous.

   2. Ray, They won t face there own distruction, because they will be safe underground in there already prepared and stocked bunkers. This is there way of reducing the population.After the dust settles they wiull come up and start there NWO. That is my personal opinion.  BIG MIKE

   3. Hello Leonard (Big Mike), yes, those at the top are indeed preparing to go underground. But on the current trajectory, nothing lives for any extended period. If we do not completely change course ( starting with bringing and end to the climate engineering insanity), “Venus Syndrome” will be the fate of planet Earth. https://dev.geoengineeringwatch.org/global-geoengineering-fueling-venus-syndrome/

   4. Ray,  Those at the top of the pyramid are safe from the devastating results of the planet's demise.  Google/YouTube:  DUMBS.  And, being psychopaths, they don't care about the rest of us.  Larry

   5. Hello Larry, yes, on the current course those that go into the “DUMBS” (deep underground military bases) may remain alive for a short while longer than the rest of us. But to be clear,  if the human race does not immediately and completely change directions, mathmatically speaking, no one lives. We must all grab hold of the wheel and help to alter the course of the Titanic on which we are currently passengers.

   6. "Those At The Top" can run down their rat holes and try to live down there like rodents for a while, but eventually their karma WILL catch up with them.  It should be completely clear to anyone who comes here to read and post by now just how extremely unbalanced these crackpot "rulers" are, and how everything else they touch is unbalanced as well. 

      They might last a little while living like moles without sunlight, but they still need to breathe the same toxic air we're getting, drink and otherwise use water and eat food, which also needs clean water and I don't think will be as nutritious not growing in real sunlight.  "They" could last a little longer than others of us, then again, maybe not.

7. The psy-op agents are hard at work today (12/17/15). Check out the article on HuffPost entitled "Americans biggest fears aren't about gun violence or terrorism".  The large imposing photograph which heads up the article shows a flagpole against a backdrop of sky with a monstrous sprayed trail of aerosol cutting across the shot. The flag on the pole is at half mast. The Illuminati psy-op embedded in this repulsive article is so obvious it's actually laughable. Yet, I am convinced that hundreds of thousands of slack-jawed "news junkies" will not consciously realize they are being "brainwashed". There is now so much of this kind of thing going on that it goes beyond ridiculous. Be on guard, folks. They're out to get YOU!!! 🙂

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   1. Marc – I checked out the article – blatantly spooky – here it is.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/terrorism-gun-violence-fears-poll_567090d9e4b0dfd4bcbfce99

   2. Well, they really want to BRAINWASH you into believing that what you see streaked across the formerly wide blue yonder is either nothing or it's just a "natural" phenomenon, as if such things, like the implanted thoughts from their originators, couldn't possibly emerge from the tail ends of… jets, and the propagandists who pull these silly ideas regarding the origins of fake clouds out of their backsides as well.  Time to go for a walk to see all the Christmas lights before they all get unplugged for the night–  just one small pleasure before turning in to remind me of what kind of world we used to live in.  Many places are showing increasingly garish displays– hope those are all L.E.D.s!

8. WTF did they dump in our skies overnight??  At dawn the whole eastern sky was glowing deep bright red, then changed to a glowing bright orange that cast eery glow over the neighborhood.  Then came in purple/blue massive chemcloud that swallowed up the sky again with the underbelly glowing bright red again.  Massive HAARP waves all over the "clouded" skies, sunrise has been completely blotted out.  I'm here along the southeast coast of NJ.  It is getting darker and darker.  dark grey spider web like thready  "clouds" floating below the huge massive chemcloud.  Had to document what I am seeing.  Feeling nauseous, stomach cramps

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9. Project Cloverleaf — The Science Behind it / May 27, 2012
   It involves the combination of chemtrails for creating an atmosphere that will support electromagnetic waves, ground-based, electromagnetic field oscillators called gyrotrons, and ionospheric heaters.
   Particulates make directed energy weapons work better. It has to do with “steady state” and particle density for plasma beam propagation. They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by “zapping” the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground GWEN [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.
   More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there — is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.
   Chemtrails are the medium – GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply: Chemtrails are the medium — directed energy is the method. Spray and Zap.
   This system appears to be in Russia, Canada, the United States, and all of Europe. Exotic weapons can be mobile, stationary, land-based, aerial, or satellite. It is an offensive and defensive system against EM attacks and missiles.
   It uses ionospheric particle shells as defense mechanisms [like a bug-zapper shell]* against missiles and EM attacks. That means they spray and then pump up the spray with electromagnetics. When these shells are created using the oscillating, electromagnetic, gyrotron stations, it “excludes” and displaces the background magnetic field. These shells can be layered one above another in a canopy fashion for extra protection from missiles.
   The chemtrail sprays have various elements in them like carbon which can used to absorb microwaves. Some of these sprays have metal flakes in them that make aerial craft invisible to radar. Spoofer sprays. Sprays like these can be used to create colorful, magnetized plasmas to cloak fighter jets. There are satellite weapons involved. Activists are using meters and are getting readings of microwaves, x-rays, and some other kind of emission that they are not sure of, maybe a low-intensity laser.
   They are also photographing gas plasma generation due to the heating of chemtrails by electromagnetics. The technical names for vertical and horizontal plasma columns are columnar focal lenses and horizontal drift plasma antennas. Various size of gas plasma orbs are associated with this technology. These orbs can be used as transmitters and receivers because they have great, refractory and optical properties.
   They also are capable of transmitting digital or analog sound. Barium, in fact, is very refractive — more refractive than glass. What does that mean? Our country has a history of experimenting on its citizens. We are talking about satellite charged-particle frequency weapons attacking a person 24 hours a day. Psychotronic weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction by the U.N.
   HAARPs can create earthquakes and can also x-ray the earth to find underground military bases, gold, or oil reserves. These ionospheric heaters can also operate as an over-the-horizon or under-the-ocean communications system. This system can control the weather or create disasters.
   Taken together with the aurora keyhole through-your-roof satellite surveillance system, Echelon electronic computer/phone sweeps, plasma-cloaked DOD Drug War helicopters and stealths, implants, and cameras on the street, it constitutes one, big global and space control grid. These weapons involve beams. Two beams overlapped will couple into a particle-ion beam that will bounce off of a remote target and send a holographic image back to the satellite for remote spying operations.
   When you cross two strong beams, you can supposedly* create scalar energies. These energies can be used as untraceable weapons for nuclear size explosions or for defense. These crossed-energies can be used to cause a person’s physical electrical system to fail or with a lower frequency, administer a kind of remote electro-shock. Visualize touching a positive and negative electric cable to each other on top of your head. Scalar energies can be utilized in hand-held military guns and on tanks. They can dud-out electronics or cause large, electrical blackouts. Scalar energies are practically impossible to shield against. You need lead, ceramics, and a deep underground facility to not be affected by these weapons. Or, you need to be up and above the field of battle.
   http://www.disclose.tv/forum/project-cloverleaf-chemtrails-and-their-purpose-t72795.html#ixzz2HmY3MiGL

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10. I have personally seen a video interview of Guy McPherson admitting that geoengineering of our skies is taking place. And yet, his overarching position is to skirt around this issue at all costs. One has to ask oneself "Why?" I suspect to openly acknowledge geoengineering kind of blows a big hole in his "Living with Death in Mind" brand. He has become moderately famous for his willingness to openly discuss the science-based mind-set that it is essentially game-over for humanity in the relatively near term. Were he to openly advocate for a cessation of ALL GEOENGINEERING AND WEATHER MODIFICATION, does this not leave a crack in the door to a possible habitable future? Maybe not, but this doesn't appear to jive with his personal style of doomsaying. But, uh, hello?? Guy knows goddamn well that geoengineering is occurring on a global scale and I would wager he knows a hell of a lot more about it than he will admit to. Perhaps to advocate against geoengineering just isn't "cool" enough for Guy. (or too dangerous?) And in addition, there is little academic precedent for advocating against geoengineering versus "climate change" or "global warming" or consumption of "non-renewable resources", etc. 

    Richard Heinburg's interview was astoundingly bland and uninteresting. I can't even remember anything he said that was worthy of recognition. Perhaps I should give it another listen. In contrast, Dane's comments were crisp, to the point, connected all the dots in an articulate style that was easy to follow and digest and was quite simply, "Kick Ass!!!" Job well done. Awesome.

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    1. Guy MacPherson is helping to normalize annihilation-to-come for most of the human race, or as many that might hear and listen to him and be swayed by his rhetoric. And he is selling books on the subject. Strange, isn't it?

    2. Marc, I quite agree.  I think academics are bred in petri dishes of their combined sweat.  I suspect that McPherson wants to distance himself from the danger and controversy of "conspiracy theory" in order to further his hospice for Earth,ka-ching,gig.  He may well believe that stopping geoengineering would not work.  He should reconsider.  If he truly believes this is The End, then there will be no one left for posterity to review his stance.  So, where's the risk in growing a pair and taking a stand against it?  Giving anti geoengineering a chance?   What is there for him to lose if he did?  One suspects he has enough money to get him through the next few years.  Or more.  Anyone following him should take heed.  He is a liar for self aggrandizement.  Worse, he is betraying his field, the people following him and Earth, herself.  He is in fact betraying his own self.  As such, he is not worthy of attention except as a circus act.  

    3. There is evidence that individuals with the power of public influence, together with their families, have been threatened, harmed, even killed, for disclosing or supporting the disclosure of the kinds of criminal activity about which we are concerned.  McPherson obviously lacks the commitment, caring, and courage of Dane Wigington.  
       This lack of courage is also evident in the behavior of those perpetrators who are aware of what they are doing.
       However, that's easy for me to say, as I am not in their line-of-fire.     I don't think…..

    4. The Lifeboat Hour was Michael C. Ruppert's weekly PRN internet radio broadcast, with commentary on geopolitical events and observations on the spiritual and personal aspects of collapse.  When seven computers at the From The Wilderness offices were smashed after writing Crossing the Rubicon, it was a definite message to him not to get too obvious speaking out on the subject of the Kleptocracy, but he'd already made his point and blown "them" away by exposing "them" using their own documents in writing Crossing the Rubicon– TOUCHE~.  He'd still comment on the geopolitical maneuverings but mainly pointed in the direction of environmental destruction, preparing for collapse, etc.  One of his repeat guests was Guy McPherson.  When Carolyn Baker took over the program after Mike committed suicide, McPherson was also a frequent guest and together the two really went into overdrive with the "We're ALL GONNA DIE!" message.  I could not stand it and basically wrote in the commentary to say that very many of us still here on Earth do NOT have their death wish, it's not over yet and we refuse to lie down and die.  She said I'd completely "misunderstood" her.. yeh…right… arrrrggghhh!

       So, WHO is The Stupid One? 

       Listening to McPherson, it sounds like he lives in his head, spewing all the numerical facts about warming in a most dispassionate voice and whatever little that's left of him that isn't there up in his head is just waiting to die anyway.  I especially loved hearing, at 55:41, when he says "In addition there are people who are paid to deny the ongoing evidence…" He might as well be talking about himself, in regard to the reality of the ongoing geoengineering programs.

        

    5. Hello Dennie, in a recent presentation McPherson gave, he again patentely denied the climate engineering reality. Whatever his driving motive is, Guy McPerson is simply lying about the climate engineering issue. I know from personal meetings with Guy that his behavior is very dishonest and alarming in regard to the subject of geoengineering. Yes, you are corrrect, McPherson should take a long look in the mirror when he mentions the word “denial”. In his case, again, he is simply lying. He knows.

11. Dane,
    Great to see you with Global Research.
    This starts off topic, please hang on.
    Professor Michel Chossudovsky, University of Ottawa writes
    for Global Research and he exposed the Canadian Bank Bailout
    that the ex Prime Minister Harper claimed did not happen because
    Canada's banks were too strong. The C  Dupid and the rest of the
    world bought it.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/canada-s-75-billion-dollar-bank-bailout/12007
    The number has been revised to C$125 Billion. Per capita, that is
    much higher than Obama USA bank bailouts. (at the start of crash)
    Canadian banks with USA divisions received untold USD$ Billions
    through TARP. Americans do not know this. I have asked many.
    The money was given to CMHC Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp
    (Your FDIC) and they bought every shite morgage that the banks
    wanted to unload on the people of Canada. CMHC is taxpayer funded and guaranteed.
    The Dupid here and the USA are being led around by the
    Criminal Guy McPhersons of the cabal just like Harper did.
    Guy and Harper are bought and paid for criminals and soon,
    new PM Trudeau will show his colors. His PM father, Pierre,  in 1974
    took the right to print no debt money away from the Bank of Canada
    and gave the Big 5 Banks the right to create debt money with loans.
    That was the beginning of Canada's debt build.
    http://qualicuminstitute.ca/federal-debt/     see the graph
    If you are still with me, I am showing you this because people
    can be sold any line of BullShite.    USA, Canada, Mexico,
    South America and the rest of the world.
    The Guy McPhersons are well paid and evil and many.
    The Dupid are the enemy. They will be the device that the
    rulers use to take us all down.
    You cain't fix The Dupid or stop the banksters.
    Bill Russell

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    1. Well done Bill!

    2. Oh yes we can Bill. Keep waking people up. Forget about the money we have more pressing issues.

12. Yet another great show! Thank you, Dane. My hope is that some day soon the other two speakers, Heinberg and McPherson will wake up and  have the courage to address climate engineering issue. I so wish that many more people would get shaken out of their slumber.

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13. So many paid stoges just complete insanity and hardly any one cares 

    so Dane as you have expressed over and over again the enemy is in control and his many many minions are enjoying luxury for NOW, for this is disappearing for them soon and the crazy thing is they do not care even for there loved ones or humanity itself ( HELL IS GOING TO FULL)

    then these traitors will feel HEAT FOREEVER 

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14. Thank you Dane – Hello all – Michael Welch used to host a radio program at the University of Winnipeg called "Here There Be Dragons" – At the time I had just had 200 Geoengineering videos professionally copied from the original – it wasn't cheap but I had to do it – just want to let you know I went down to the university radio station and met him – (about 5 years ago) – we talked a while and I left him with several copies .

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15. Well folks. I couldn't listen to Richard Heinberg or Guy McPherson, very boring they're just filling in time. The only one that made any sense was Dane.

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    1. To what Renate said: Ditto.

16. Im so sad to see how totally scammed the Pacific Island Nation are and being led to  slaughter. All the UN  agency is writing how wonderful a job the Pacific leaders did at COP21 they brought the tears to eyes of all the delegates. What was not understood was they were there for the purpose of putting this over. Crying about sea level rise, drought ,temperate rise .   At the same time as UN NWO CIA DOD aircraft are spraying the life out of them. All they get in return is more Agenda 21 shoved down their throats. I guess this has happened plenty times in history but we still do not learn to our peril. Island peoples are very trusting, Those deceiving them by doing this are headed down to level 9 in hell.    From the Pacific G

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17. Good presentation Dane … you are right on … so many people asleep or in denial … if we can stop the weather geoengineering program as is, and refocus on refreezing the arctic, we may have a chance … focus on methane beds would be helpful in slowing release and delaying the end game.

    Unfortunate Guy doesn't see the geoengineering program and recognize the empirical data in his face, or the potential for turning things around, no matter how grim they appear … I am a hopeful optimist. Besides, I know we recycle so it can only get better, and consciousness is much bigger … what do they really know? 

    The takedown of the controlling bankers (Kazarian mafia) by section 21 of the military code of justice (thank you Ike) is in progress, but I would feel more comfortable if they would speed up. Check out the Benjamin Fulford blog.  Love to all  

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18. SRM covers up climate change in some ways which it causes disastrously in many others. Oil will continue to be a commodity forced upon the world and when they don't have any more oil or it is too expensive or whatever, then the customer is unwanted. We are useful only as 'forced customers', but what about when there is no more market place product? Alternative energies? Finally some freedom? Where/when is Marx's Communist Utopia?! (BTW, I don't have faith in any Communist Utopia to come. We've had plenty of them with hundreds of millions genocided into such freedom.)

    So, can the big boys allow us the freedom of alternative energies, to escape being the forced customer of a tightly controlled and privately owned market place product? Is that what the big boys are about? I think the general population should become more adept at reducing their energy consumption and understanding where energy comes from. Some basic maths and physics goes a long way in understanding this.

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    1. Communism didn't work the way Marx had planned.  Plenty of corruption there.

       Capitalism as practiced is doing very little better, for 99% of us. 

       We'd be better off practicing horticulture and/or much smaller farms in very local foodsheds, living in harmony with the rhythms of the planet.  More like the way indigenous peoples have tried to live, I'd imagine.  I think Ireland's been doing pretty well with this, from what I've recently read in Organic Living.  Cuba did too.  God knows what they'll be getting now that the U.S. has decided it needs Cuba's resources once again.

    2. Michel B, Hello and you are right and of course that is what the Big Boys are about: forced customers.  We had the knowledge and technology long ago to become more fossil fuel independent, especially here in California.  Except now, of course, there is less light to capture.

       As all celebrated the end of Keystone, the evil ones were at work.  NRDC sent me the most terrifying uptake from that.  A hydra of pipelines for tar sands being shipped by trains, pipes and tankers, set to roll through the Bay Area and all over the place.  From Canada.  Which an above post made clear their debt, no doubt owing to this vast destruction of their country for "resources".

       Yes, basic math and physics would be nice-but for our rotten educational system!  I've been conserving electricity since I was 14.  Also water and fuel.  54 years now.  Even most adults, with an education yet, don't get it.  Almost no one gets electrosmog.  Devices seem so easy, so convenient.  Do people actually unplug anything ever?!  Few do.  But the ones who want this fossil fuel the most, that would be our military.  How else to spray us 24/7?  How else to run all their war game tests, the Growler planes combing the Olympic Peninsula?  The submarines?  "Our" huge, world wide attempt at domination?  And what will be left to dominate and protect?  As I say again and again: think it through, think it All the way through.  But, they don't.  Read some stuff today from NY Times about Navy Seals acting badly in Afghanistan.  Mentioned these guys so hardened that just for fun they shoot at the dirt near the feet of farmers.  No compunctions whatsoever.  That's how Big Boys play.   Emphasis on BOYS.

19. Thank you so very much, Dane, for being there doing that work! The way I look at it, and I have looked at it that way since I heard about HAARP quite some years back already, this geoengineering is the very WORST of the Worst abomnations by the apprentice sorcerers. It's changing so many things, if ony by changing the way we conceive of the weather predictability, of our environment, of natural sustenance and natural laws…

    By the way, just a few years ago [don't remember exactly when, maybe 3 or 4 years ago??, I heard that the US had finished building a more sophisticated replacement for their HAARP [which they were thinking of selling, that I can't imagine happening…]. What happened to these two HAARP?

    Much love and appreciation to you, you are very much needed. Dane!

    Viviane

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    1. Hello Viviane, HAARP is still active to our knowledge, though numerous other large ground based ionosphere heater facilities around the globe are also now a part of the RF grid. There are SBX radar facilities to consider, and NEXRAD, which are also appear to be a part of the grid.

    2. Heating the ionosphere by 15,000 degrees fahrenheit?  And that's just with ONE of these infernal Hell-machines operating?  How big an area on Earth would that cover?  What happens when we have various militaries operating a few of these damned machines all at the same time?  Does that sound like "global warming" to anyone else?

       The entire planet Earth is becoming like one big Grecian Brazen Bull, a ca. 570 BCE and later torture device.  Victims, usually those who opposed their despotic rulers, were locked in, then literally roasted alive inside a life-sized brass bull that then had a fire lit underneath it. Only a psychopath could dream up such a terrible torture chamber. 

       DO THEY REALLY INTEND TO ROAST THEMSELVES AND THE REST OF US TO DEATH?  Why would we think to let THEM treat us with any more of this Phalaris-like behavior??

    3. Viviane hello.  I remember that not? long ago HAARP was sold, as it was previously owned by the Navy.  Forgetting who bought it.  Anyone remember?

20. Excellent. 

    I'm running again for the US Senate on a platform of WTC7 Awareness, our fraudulent war of invasion – occupation – torture – assassination – murder, and an effort to restore America's rule-of-law. 

    This climate catastrophe is a chance for us to re-direct the merchants of war and violence to saving the planet, saving their jobs, and allowing defense contractors to continue their theft from the US Treasury.   It could work – it will certainly take their annual trillion dollar effort, at defense, to avert the planet-wide threat to life as we know it. 

    Perhaps a billion of us are aware, we do not have leaders or an international dialog but that will soon change:  Sugar ants vanishing, blind growth on the trees, absence of bees, insects, birds,  no fall growth on Willamette Valley lawns, etc. etc.  – denial is becoming more difficult and soon, we will be overwhelmed on the West Coast by the cancers brought to us from Fukushima.  

    The waste of resources can no longer be tolerated.  It may be too late!  But, we try.  

    Thx, Dane Wigington 

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21. Until the main stream media report the TRUE facts, this battle is a tough one. No publicity for the conference, sad. It's time for more taking it to the streets. No one takes me me seriously even with pages of info.

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22. Dane — Great uplifting talk from you! Thank you, as always. McPherson sounds so depressed, no energy, like he's given up, and has no life sustaining faith in Gaia, our Mother Earth, and her eternal connection with the imperishable creative principle of harmonic perfection throughout all the Woven Universe. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio (or in this case Guy McPherson), Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."  – Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio   :o)

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